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cleo

Social climber
wherever you go, there you are
Aug 7, 2015 - 04:13pm PT
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2014/10/air-france-flight-447-crash

A chilling look at how a panicked pilot managed to confuse 2 more pilots, crashing a perfectly functional and modern aircraft into the ocean in less than 5 minutes.
Winemaker

Sport climber
Yakima, WA
Aug 7, 2015 - 07:47pm PT
Wow cleo,thanks for that link, that was a really interesting and informative read. I knew the details of the 447 accident and have read the accident report, but that article really brought it all home. We never know how we are going to react until it happens and don't know what we don't know (if that makes sense). When I was road racing formula cars I went out for a practice session and suddenly had a sunburn at my back; some fuel had spilled from the tank breather and ignited from a bottoming spark. I tried to push the fire bottle button, but the steering wheel was in the way and I couldn't reach it; try things in real life was the lesson, I'd only thought about the button and never tried it. The fire burned up the fuel and went out.
enjoimx

Trad climber
Yosemite
Aug 7, 2015 - 08:08pm PT
You guys surprise me with how much armchair knowledge you seem to have about such a wide array of subjects.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 7, 2015 - 09:50pm PT
cleo, please stay current, that article was linked on the aviation thread yonks ago. ;-)

enjo, don't be jealous, it's quite unbecoming.
Winemaker

Sport climber
Yakima, WA
Aug 27, 2015 - 10:45am PT
Well, they're getting closer.........

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-26/out-of-control-takeoff-attempt-by-allegiant-jet-spurs-faa-probe?cmpid=yhoo
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2015 - 11:13am PT
Nah I'm saying I hope their flight control maintenance is better than their engine maintenance.

Well...that's pretty close.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 27, 2015 - 11:20am PT
Allegiant said an inspection found that a device that moves one of the plane’s two elevators had become disconnected

Sounds like somebody didn't adequately safety wire a nut on - Airframe 101.
Of course, as old as most of those MD-80's are the nut might have just
disintegrated.
Winemaker

Sport climber
Yakima, WA
Aug 28, 2015 - 07:49am PT
Not really too bad, but................ it's adding up.

http://avherald.com/h?article=48b73d05&opt=0
The Chief

climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
Aug 28, 2015 - 08:26am PT
Sounds like the Russian & Chinese Air Force..... Oh Man.


PS: Appears this airline follows the above's training protocols. If you can fit in the cockpit seat, can reach the controls and read the gauges, by all means, go for it!
Bill Mc Kirgan

Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Sep 2, 2015 - 03:51am PT
Loose nutz....

http://www.pjstar.com/article/20150831/NEWS/150839908?utm_content=bufferaaf2e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Too much, too fast, too few to do it: someone forgot thread lock where it's needed to keep those nuts from falling off and doing things like jamming the elevators in the climb position. Good thing those pilots still had a way out and made their decision in the nick of time.
GuapoVino

climber
Sep 2, 2015 - 06:53am PT
Wow, I clicked on Winemakers link to the pilots forums (in post #20). Holy sh#t, that's some crazy reading. I'm on a thread now taking about pilots flying under the influence.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 2, 2015 - 07:53am PT
This year, there have been 16 reported incidents involving Allegiant flights that include emergency landings, flight diversions and aborted takeoffs.

Yikes! I didn't realize it was that bad! They only have 75 planes!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 8, 2015 - 06:54pm PT
Another incident. Diversion to change aircraft. Right on schedule about one major incident every 2 weeks.

http://www.kolotv.com/news/southernnevadanews/headlines/Allegiant-Flight-to-Vegas-Diverted-to-Utah-325810051.html
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Goldenville west of Lurkerville
Sep 8, 2015 - 08:01pm PT
Reilly....Correction...74 planes...
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 11, 2015 - 11:31pm PT
Was just thinking they were overdue for an incident..
Fresno-bound Allegiant Air flight aborted after fire report

http://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article38779236.html
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2015 - 06:21am PT
Several similar critical maintenance issues discovered in multiple aircraft after aborted takeoff that nearly crashed.

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/business/article41736207.html

WASHINGTON When two Allegiant Airlines pilots couldn’t control their plane and scrubbed a takeoff from Las Vegas in August, the carrier discovered that a critical piece of equipment in the tail had come loose.

Allegiant ordered inspections of its other Boeing MD-80s to ensure that all similar connections were secured. Eight days later, Allegiant said in response to questions from Bloomberg that all its aircraft “were found to be in working order.”

By that time, mechanics had already come across two other jets with bolts in similar locations that weren’t properly locked in place, according to company repair logs obtained by Bloomberg. Later that month, they discovered another unsecured bolt on a third plane. While Allegiant says the fasteners weren’t on the same component that failed in Las Vegas, the Federal Aviation Administration says it is aware of the findings and has stepped up oversight of the airline.

Read more here: http://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/business/article41736207.html#storylink=cpy
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 29, 2015 - 08:35am PT
It isn't a matter of if, well, if they stay in business long enough.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Oct 29, 2015 - 11:51am PT
MD80's are over-sized lawn darts.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 29, 2015 - 11:51am PT
...I mean how else are you supposed to land without runnig out of altitude and airspeed??

True dat although it is highly preferable to run out of altitude and
airspeed a couple of feet above the 'numbers', not 100' and 800' short of
a sea wall. ;-/

I can't believe I just checked on a ticket to Europe on Aeroflot. The
price wasn't nearly good enough to warrant that amount of risk.
I've flown with them and they are cowboys. Not in the same league with
Asiana, but still pretty rowdy.
Winemaker

Sport climber
Yakima, WA
Nov 13, 2015 - 11:10am PT
Not a crash, but the pilot got fired for evacuating the passengers from a smoking plane as a safety precaution:

https://gma.yahoo.com/ex-pilot-sues-allegiant-malicious-firing-emergency-evacuation-132448481--abc-news-topstories.html#
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