Can Poseurs Be Real Climbers?

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Chaz

Trad climber
So. Cal.
Sep 2, 2006 - 03:17am PT
My name is Dave Weese.

I live in Redlands, California.

I go by "Chaz" because "Dave" was already taken.

Ouch! Rocks!!!!!!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 2, 2006 - 03:21am PT
I'm with you, Dave.

Thumbs up for Ouch.
caughtinside

Social climber
Davis, CA
Sep 2, 2006 - 03:24am PT
Alfred J. Pennypacker here.

But my friends call me Dave.

dirtineye calls me caughtinzipper. Which technically isn't possible because I don't zip up. It's a macho thing.
Ultrabiker

Ice climber
Eastside
Sep 2, 2006 - 09:02am PT
One of the first things that was taught to us at "Interrogator" School(SERE), was when first questioning a "Suspect" and they begin their identification with a question, immediately suspect all their replies to all of your questions! Their initial answer devulges suspect/questionable information and definitely devulges that they are beginning to deciminate "Propaganda", half truths and in most cases, outward lies!

Even though I do not agree with "RO's" style in some cases(of which he takes offense too in a manner that I don't agree with either), I have enjoyed some of his work and can authenticate that he is a "Valid" climber, in one manner or another. Is that important, hell no.

As DMT posted above, this is the internet and a platform for many that are nobody to possibly be somebody (in their own mind).

I know what and who I am. I know where and what I have done and experienced. I really don't care if you care in regards to this platform. I think that candor and integrity are the most important qualities of one's Character, period. With that, comes the responsibilty of the reality of, does one know and honestly practice who they really are, regardless of whether it is on this platform or while wiping their ass?

PS: I know for a fact the Werner Braun is authentic.... had him in my Helo several times to go save some dumbass's ass. And as for RO, will, he too is authentic and I won't belabor why I know that he is authentic.

PSPS: That pic of RO shows him on a TR? Some may say that TRer's are in fact wanna-bes or in this case, "Poseurs".

Rick "The Chief" Pedkys ABHC(AW/NAC/NPJ)USN/RET
Now excuse me for I have to go read some more "Propaganda" and thank God that none of RO's is in it, then go wipe my ass!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 2, 2006 - 09:35am PT
Rick,
sometimes climbs are so long that they involve multiple pitches that climbers alternate roles on. This is called "swinging leads".
The route pictured is such a climb, and some feel the second lead is the crux.

It was put up in the 80s by some crazy solo climber.


Ron "the crackbolter" Olevsky ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
St. Louis
Sep 2, 2006 - 10:26am PT
Though my avatar isn't my real name, it's been plastered all over here. Plus, I use my real email address.

Nonetheless, I've been thought of as some as a poseur. Meh, whatever!

Callie "Crimpergirl" k-12
Roger Breedlove

Trad climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Sep 2, 2006 - 10:35am PT
When I first posted on ST, I used my real name because I had no real clue what the alternatives might be. It helped immediately since Werner gave me a hearty welcome (When I was a baby, Werner used to baby-sit me).

After I started spouting off on climbing issues, I realized that I was probably better off using my real name. However, it has its restrictions: Anyone Googling me gets lots of SuperTopo so I need to stay out of most of the frays, and I feel like I have to carefully distinguish between my 'made up' posts and my 'historical posts.' I also worry a little about the issues that DMT raises.

Personally, since there are so many great climbers here who came into their own after my passing (so to speak), I like to know who people really are--it is more interesting. When Maysho and Deuce4 trade experiences on their first ascents of the Captain, the fine details and resolutions can be seen more clearly knowing the background (or being able to look it up).

On the other hand, I don't see any real value in knowing who posters are if they are of the 'hall of mirrors' variety. The comedians are funnier without being able to see back stage.

Buzz
elcapfool

Big Wall climber
hiding in plain sight
Sep 2, 2006 - 10:52am PT
I am Pete Zabrok.


Or is it Sparticus?


Is the person I was even still alive?

Yeah, that's it, I am the dead shell of a climber that is still running on residual caffeine.

Spandex pants? That is SO manly!

Climbing, a lot of work for no pay. If you're doing it right...
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 2, 2006 - 11:19am PT
No.

I'm Sparticus!
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
St. Louis
Sep 2, 2006 - 11:25am PT
I. AM. SPARTICUS.
elcapfool

Big Wall climber
hiding in plain sight
Sep 2, 2006 - 11:26am PT
Warren Harding was THE man! A founding father of bigwall climbing, first ascensionist of El Capitan.
A pioneering renegade, who didn't care much for the opinion of others. A dashing man in a better time, drove a sports car, and loved red wine and women.

The devil to Robbins' angel persona in the battle for climbers souls. No stranger to the drill, but never for retrobolting.

It was a great pleasure to have known him.

If there is a wine tasting room in heaven, you can bet they know him there...
elcapfool

Big Wall climber
hiding in plain sight
Sep 2, 2006 - 11:38am PT
That would be Royal Robbins. The self styled "Good Guy" of climbing, a bit sanctimonious for me. Not real fun at parties, and better than a halcyon for falling asleep at a slideshow.



Warren passed on a few years ago. He had been suffering from failing health from a lifelong love affair with wine. He was in his late 70's.

Maybe try googleing "Batso", his knickname.

Retrobolting is drilling a hole and placing a bolt in a section of rock that has already been climbed by someone. Warren did A LOT of first ascents.
The Nose
Wall of the Early Morning Light
And a hundred or so others
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Sep 2, 2006 - 11:44am PT
I used the term "sea change", in a paper for an education Ph.D once.

The woman didn't know what it meant. She didn't know what "venue", meant, either.

Shows to go you what a Ph.D in Education is worth.

I'm not a poser, or a poseur, but I AM a SUPERGUMBIEWANNABE.

Which made a great route name, hehe.

YOu can look that one up, Caughtinzipper.
Roger Breedlove

Trad climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Sep 2, 2006 - 12:02pm PT
Okay Lois, just so you don't get stuck, Harding may have been a a heavy wine drinker, but that is not what defined him as a person or a climber. Ask someone to send you a copy of one of his articles--"Downward Bound: Reflections of a Broken Down Climber," or something along those lines.

Then we can talk about the meaning of 'sea change' and that French word, 'venue.'

Best, Buzz
elcapfool

Big Wall climber
hiding in plain sight
Sep 2, 2006 - 12:05pm PT
With Warren, it was all about the red wine. Although I did a number on a bottle of Couvasier (sp) with him one night.

He came to my house in wine country one time, just stopping in on his way somewhere. He stayed for three days. We went to every single free tasting room in the Napa valley. In Yosemite, he would be constantly approached by young climbers who just wanted to shake his hand, and he didn't like that at all. But in Napa, he was treated like a bum by yuppie snobs, and he seemed to be having an excellent time. Fame wasn't his gig.
yo

climber
The Eye of the Snail
Sep 2, 2006 - 12:22pm PT
Nearly every climber in the Taco who has a Big Name™ uses their real name.

Are we calling that candor or social capital?





Vincenzo
elcapfool

Big Wall climber
hiding in plain sight
Sep 2, 2006 - 12:25pm PT
The world is a different place today. You are not allowed to be as cool as Warren Harding was.
pc

climber
East of Seattle
Sep 2, 2006 - 12:25pm PT
Back to that stemming photo...

Man, that dude looks like a deadly combo of Eddy Merckx and Jerry Moffatt. Prob'ly okay if before '81. Scary if after...

;)
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 2, 2006 - 12:27pm PT
The REAL Warren Harding, not that batty poseur, came through Toquerville in 1923, did a climb, and never returned to the White House alive.
I think he was bored to death by a mob of yuppies.
elcapfool

Big Wall climber
hiding in plain sight
Sep 2, 2006 - 12:27pm PT
Wasn't he the bassist for "Stryper"...
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