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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Dec 21, 2012 - 01:14am PT
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Dec 21, 2012 - 02:21am PT
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LOL...
We Greeks are laughing at all theses panicking western "Malakes." John of Patmos pretty much created the whole idea and wrote it up in the Bible. Not the Mayans. Now these silly uneducated westerners have projected their fears, mixed up a bit of misunderstood Biblical lore onto the Mayan Calendar and wham... It's pretty funny.
Anyway, go drink a beer, check out the boob thread and yeah folks... Enjoy the show.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Dec 21, 2012 - 02:49am PT
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http://news.yahoo.com/mexicos-ethnic-maya-unmoved-2012-armageddon-hysteria-132840695.html
IZAMAL, Mexico (Reuters) - Thousands of mystics, New Age dreamers and fans of pre-Hispanic culture have been drawn to Mexico in hopes of witnessing great things when the day in an old Maya calendar dubbed "the end of the world" dawns on Friday.
But many of today's ethnic Maya cannot understand the fuss. Mostly Christian, they have looked on in wonder at the influx of foreign tourists to ancient cities in southern Mexico and Central America whose heyday passed hundreds of years ago.
For students of ancient Mesoamerican time-keeping, December 21, 2012 marks the end of a 5,125-year cycle in the Maya Long Calendar, an event one leading U.S. scholar said in the 1960s could be interpreted as a kind of Armageddon for the Maya.
Academics and astronomers say too much weight was given to the words and have sought to allay fears the end is nigh.
But over the past few decades, fed by popular culture, Friday became seen by some western followers of alternative religions as a day on which momentous change could occur.
"It's a psychosis, a fad," said psychologist Vera Rodriguez, 29, a Mexican of Maya descent living in Izamal, Yucatan state, near the center of the 2012 festivities, the site of Chichen Itza. "I think it's bad for our society and our culture."
Behind Rodriguez, her two children played in a living room decorated with Christmas trees and Santa Claus figurines.
Mexico's government forecast around 50 million tourists from home and abroad would visit southern Mexico in 2012. Up to 200,000 are expected to descend on Chichen Itza on Friday.
"It's a date for doing business, but for me it's just like any other day," said drinks vendor Julian Nohuicab, 34, an ethnic Maya working in the ruins of the ancient city of Coba in Quintana Roo state, not far from the beach resort of Cancun.
Watching busloads of white-haired pensioners and dreadlocked backpackers pile into their heartland, Maya old and young roll their eyes at the suggestion the world will end.
"We don't believe it," said Socorro Poot, 41, a housewife and mother of three in Holca, a village about 25 miles from Chichen Itza. "Nobody knows the day and the hour. Only God knows."
FOREIGN INVADERS
Tracing its origins to the end of the 4th millennium BC, the ancient Mesoamerican civilization of the Maya reached its peak between A.D. 250 and 900 when they ruled over large swathes of southern Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras and Belize.
Famed for developing hieroglyphic writing and an advanced astronomical system, the Maya then began a slow decline, but pockets of the civilization continued to flourish until they were finally subjugated by the Spanish in the 17th century.
Today, ethnic Maya are believed to number at least 7 million in Mexico, Guatemala and other parts of Central America.
The vast majority are nominally Roman Catholics, though many still uphold elements and rites of their old beliefs. According to a 2000 Mexican census, there were also a few hundred Jews and handful of Buddhists among the Maya.
Tales of human sacrifice, pioneering architectural feats and an interest in the stars burnished the Maya's supernatural reputation. So too, say experts, has the misguided notion that the Maya died out with the arrival of the conquistadors.
"That idea that they disappeared culturally back in the deep past is one of these things that feeds into this idea that they are mysterious, that they are otherworldly," said David Stuart, a Maya expert at the University of Texas.
The reality is that many Maya live in rural areas where water can be scarce, communications poor and education patchy.
Even as some shrug their shoulders at the awe and reverence December 21 has inspired, others worry it has become a free meal ticket for sharp-witted businessmen.
"There's the legend and there's the reality," said Yolanda Cornelio, 21, a tourism official in the city of Merida, whose mother speaks Maya at home. "Some people take the legend and abuse it, using it to make money. There's a lot of con artists."
With scores of old Maya ruins, temples and monuments dotting the landscape between southern Mexico and Central America, locals have plenty of opportunities to impress foreign visitors.
One of the most popular attractions lies in a leafy grove near the crumbling pyramids of Coba, where a large stone tablet records the Maya creation date of August 13, 3114 BC - quite literally the cornerstone of the 2012 phenomenon.
"This is a very powerful, sacred place," said Jonathan Ellerby, 39, a writer from Canada. "I feel something energetic, emotional, and I feel I'm in the right place. I really do."
(Additional reporting by Gabriel Stargardter; editing by Dave Graham and Todd Eastham)
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Dec 21, 2012 - 03:00am PT
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Proof that people shouldn't do drugs.
Y2K Hale-Bopp, etc.
Stay away from the cool-aid!
...amd wham, I am still here.
Good night folks.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Dec 21, 2012 - 03:05am PT
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is it the new age yet??
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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Dec 21, 2012 - 03:08am PT
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I think I can feel it! Whoops, nope, just some gas.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dec 21, 2012 - 05:16am PT
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And she took her pop's shield with her. We're probably all screwed.
Anastasia's probably right: It's all a crop o loose shite.
It's all Greek to mayan mitigated joy.
There's a chance that I'll live to see another Yosemite Facelift?
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Dec 21, 2012 - 05:27am PT
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My grandmother Athena does get restless. Probably wondering why the scale is all tilted and... Yes, she has a nice rack too. Dang it!
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Dec 21, 2012 - 07:54am PT
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Weird. Things seem completely normal so far. Will continue to be vigilant and will report anything unusual happening here in Boulder.
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TREED
Trad climber
Gunks
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Dec 21, 2012 - 08:03am PT
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Nuts...
I slept through ANOTHER important event. What happened?
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Dec 21, 2012 - 08:10am PT
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It is the dawning of the age of Aquarius.
The World will end Yesterday.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Dec 21, 2012 - 08:47am PT
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It appears that Choss Creek and the internet both survived the night.
Even the Solstice Lingam is looking intact. I will have to wait for the dawn to see if only our house and it survive.
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richross
Trad climber
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Dec 21, 2012 - 09:18am PT
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Plaidman
Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 21, 2012 - 10:17am PT
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HEY! The sun came up. Back to work. Move along. Nothing to see here.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Dec 21, 2012 - 12:22pm PT
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The bright orange sunrise this morning was awesome.
Then everyone at my gym decided to run out the front door to look up at the sky, that got exciting.
A ginormous perfect rainbow was up.
It created some laughs about rainbows and end of the world, then we went back to getting all strong and stuff.
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Dec 21, 2012 - 12:48pm PT
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Damn, I'm still here. Now what to do about all that credit card debt?
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dirt claud
Social climber
san diego,ca
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Dec 21, 2012 - 12:50pm PT
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Dec 21, 2012 - 12:51pm PT
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Now what are the Mayans going to use to keep track of the seasons, seeing how their calendar has expired?
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