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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jul 22, 2012 - 01:26pm PT
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What do you mean "Dogs can't belay"?
Goldie is as good as any sport climbing belayer.
She never takes her paw off the rope.
My CragDog can lick yours.
She can be vicious however.
Unless of course she has her "Meds".
Then she is a total marshmallow of love.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Jul 22, 2012 - 01:48pm PT
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My dog is allowed to go to some crags & some crags she isn't, you need to be smart & decide what an appropriate place for your dog to be & if they will inconvenience others, you, or even themselves before you bring them.
That being said I would rather have a decently behaved dog around the crag than than a crying baby any day. I can step around dogsh1t but it's hard to focus with amateur parents & their screaming baby trying to figure out how they can be selfish & climb while raising a kid.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Jul 22, 2012 - 02:02pm PT
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Philo, you are cracking me up. Cool pics of a cool dog.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Jul 22, 2012 - 02:54pm PT
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Locker, he's not a shitbull he's an American Bulldog. Pitbulls are bulldogs mixed with terriers for dog fighting. American Bulldogs are bulldogs bred for controlling wild boars in colonial times. But in a pinch herb flavored climbers will do.
If you don't like American Bulldogs you are UN-American😄
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sol_dog
Trad climber
New Delhi
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Jul 22, 2012 - 03:00pm PT
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Dang, you guys are haters. I bring my dogs out climbing whenever I can. I pick up their sh#t and people enjoy their company. hatin'....
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Jul 22, 2012 - 03:49pm PT
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Funny this thread is here on this day... I just experience something similar this morning while hiking with the baby and Loki. She was on leash when some random guy started throwing rocks at us near the trail head. He was yelling to get the f*&ing dog out of there. When a rock hit her she moved in front of the baby in protection mode with all her teeth showing. I swear next time I am going to let her off leash. Well, the owner of the property just happened to be near, (he let's neighbors have use of the trail that goes through his Orange orchard.) he came running with a gun and chased the guy off. (Now this can turn into a gun thread too.)
This goes to show that some people bring the b.s. onto themselves. Dogs are not always the problem.
Yes, I bring my dog climbing. She is well mannered and usually sleeps in the bushes or on "my bag." She is never aggressive unless you give her reason to, like throwing rocks at her family. We only bring her for one pitch climbs so one of us is always with her. Now if she had a bad disposition a.k.a. showed aggressive behavior, was hard to control; I would keep her at home. Her actions are my responsibility, I sure as heck am going to make sure it's good. Plus when I approach and see others at the climb, I make sure they are alright with her being there. If not, I simply go somewhere else.
I know that being a dog owner, you need to give up some freedoms. Such things as multi-pitches, leaving without plans for a dog sitter, walking freely without holding a leash etc. It's part of being a responsible person.
Not everyone is "responsible." Sadly they don't pay the price, the dog does.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Jul 22, 2012 - 04:02pm PT
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Donini-can you return my copy of "40 Ways to Wok Your Dog" you borrowed last summer?
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Jul 22, 2012 - 04:04pm PT
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Usually is when we are alone out there and I let her loose to chase rabbits. She loves chasing rabbits despite being the worst hunter. She once caught one and simply just let it go... Now are you telling me my dog should be only loose in backyard, never free to play in the woods, never allowed to run in the river bed, not allowed to play frisbee in a park? She should always be tied or locked up? Seriously! Since when letting a dog be a dog became so wrong?
By the way, I have a baby and he comes with us too. Crying baby, check... Dog, check. I must be your worst nightmare Locker. :) By the way, my dog doesn't pee or poop near people's stuff. She never has and when she does do it on trail, we pick it up and pack it out. It's not that hard. :)
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fsck
climber
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Jul 22, 2012 - 04:08pm PT
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i love seeing dogs at the crags.
however, i absolutely hate seeing people there, especially climbers.
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Jul 22, 2012 - 04:09pm PT
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Dang it Locker! ;P *&%@# Trolling Me! Grrr.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Jul 22, 2012 - 05:09pm PT
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I have a blunt statement here:
"I don't love YOUR dog."
I love mine enough to leave her home from the crags, and not endanger her by exposure to rattlesnakes, and other vermin.
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LAP
Boulder climber
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Jul 22, 2012 - 05:15pm PT
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I thought you guys ate your dogs.
Lucinda
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Jul 22, 2012 - 05:15pm PT
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Can I bring my dog to the gym? I'm blind and my dog helps keep me on the blue route I'm working.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Jul 22, 2012 - 05:26pm PT
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Is it OK to bring dogs to the outdoor climbing?
No.
Think of it this way.
Would a dog naturally transport itself, search out, sit and watch humans climb rocks?
Be a friend to your dog and your climbing friends and leave spot at home.
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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Jul 22, 2012 - 05:27pm PT
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This is about a minus 5 on the troll scale.
Second user post ever, disabled user to user messages....MiHo Wang? Stock footage photo? Crazy looking pekingese? Topic that gets climbers riled without thinking about it?
Contrats to whoever started this trolling. You have a lot of bites!
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jul 22, 2012 - 05:33pm PT
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Russ?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jul 22, 2012 - 05:35pm PT
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I swear next time I am going to let her off leash.
Be aware of the danger you just have created for yourself and your dog.
IF you ever do that, the dog will undoubtedly attack someone. You have announced your intention to attack someone with deadly force. If she bites someone in any case, she will almost certainly be euthanized (killed).
Escalating force generally results in harm. Often out of control.
The dog, once off the leash is out of control, and like the bullet that has left the gun, will go who-knows-where?
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Jul 22, 2012 - 07:14pm PT
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Miho Wang's picture is of Soong May-ling, later madame Chiang Kai-shek, the Last Empress of China. An extraordinary lady.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Jul 22, 2012 - 07:27pm PT
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It's nice to know I can bring my crying baby and dog and scare the haters away and have the good routes to ourselves.
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Jul 22, 2012 - 08:28pm PT
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So it's alright to throw rocks at a woman carrying her child with her dog on leash? One rock hit me in the elbow, luckily non hit the baby or I would have gone ape shiest and one hit the dog who went from happy on walk to, I must protect my family. I say that was unprovoked. Plus I was on private property and I had permission to be on it while he was trespassing. Seriously is the law that unjust?
Ooh, found this in the California law books. Plus he was trespassing on private land which also allows my dog the right to bite him.
Assumption Of The Risk As a Defense in Dog Bite Attacks.
The actions of the dog bite victim prior to the dog attack are also important in determining whether a dog owner will be held liable. Even if the victim is lawfully on private property, the dog owner is not liable if the dog bite victim kicked, teased, or otherwise provoked the dog. In such instances a dog owner may raise the defense that the victim invited the injury by her conduct and therefore assumed the risk of the dog attack. The key factors are the dog bite victim's knowledge and appreciation of the danger and a voluntary acceptance of the risk of being bitten.
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