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Miho Wang
Social climber
SanFrancisco, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 21, 2012 - 11:53pm PT
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I started climbing in the gym 3 years ago. I just learning to climb outside. My puppy is my best friend. I take her everywhere with me. My friends say some climbers do not like dogs at climbing areas outside. I love my little Pee Wee puppy and would be sad not to take her. Is it OK for me to bring her to the outdoor climbing?
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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Jul 21, 2012 - 11:54pm PT
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No. dogs are annoying and sh#t on ropes.
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John M
climber
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Jul 21, 2012 - 11:59pm PT
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Russ is looking hot these days..
dammit MH.. where is your post.. left me hanging. heh heh
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jul 22, 2012 - 12:03am PT
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Depends on the area, the approach, the base. Will you be topping out and walking off?
How many other people will be there to get pissed off?
Do you take your dog to the gym?
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beef supreme
climber
the west
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Jul 22, 2012 - 12:11am PT
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haha, i'm tearing up. that shit's hilarious. funny looking dog too!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jul 22, 2012 - 12:47am PT
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Only if Donini is there....
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Jul 22, 2012 - 12:51am PT
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man, what a troll.
no semi-self respecting climber would bring a rat like that to a crag.
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BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
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Jul 22, 2012 - 04:49am PT
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No dogs, be a good neighbor
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 22, 2012 - 09:18am PT
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Yep....but only if I can bring my weber.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Jul 22, 2012 - 09:28am PT
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Even though I have my own dog, I'd never take her to the crags. It's really an imposition on others to do so. So...be polite and respectful of the wishes of other climbers. Keep your Pee Wee at home.
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mission
Social climber
boulder,co
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Jul 22, 2012 - 09:33am PT
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In Colorado, dogs are welcome at sport climbing areas, but please do not bring your dog trad climbing.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Jul 22, 2012 - 09:40am PT
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In any relationship it's a good idea to spend some time apart pursuing personal interests. It's healthy.
However, if you insist, I have seen many climbing with their dogs.
Especially FRUMY.
Be careful this doesn't happen to you: http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1775995/A-guy-kicked-my-dog
Please do not bring cats to the crag. I'm allergic.
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Kalimon
Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jul 22, 2012 - 10:44am PT
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In Colorado, dogs are welcome at sport climbing areas, but please do not bring your dog trad climbing.
Dogs do not belong at the crags, sport or otherwise. Leave them at home.
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jstan
climber
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Jul 22, 2012 - 10:51am PT
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Basically 20 to 0 here. No one suggested prior conditioning for Pee Wee. Like getting her a rattlesnake to practice with at home first.
But it came pretty close.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jul 22, 2012 - 11:07am PT
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No, it's not ok.
1. Dogs will be dogs, and the mess is not pleasant for others.
2. the dog will be exposed, often, to intense sunlight and can get dehydrated.
3. the dog will tend to get underfoot. If this happens at a critical moment for the climbers, your dog WILL get kicked like a football.
4. Your dog is not your best friend. Your dog is your pet, for whom you are responsible. Treat your pet with respect, and protect them from a situation that can be dangerous to them.
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darkmagus
Mountain climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 22, 2012 - 11:07am PT
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I hate dogs hanging out at climbing spots. Dirty paws on my crash pad and whatnot. They're horrible spotters too. Leave it in your hot car with the windows up.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Jul 22, 2012 - 11:50am PT
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We're a mean crowd here.
On the chance that Miho is sincere, and still reading, the answer is it depends on the dog, the crag and the owner. Is the dog comfortable outdoors, and mellow around other people, pets and wildlife even when Miho is off the ground? Is the place crowded with people likely to step on, drop things on, or get pissy about even a well behaved dog? Does the owner have good control and a good plan for how things will work?
Might be a good idea to hike up there with the dog just to check things out, with no intention to climb and no need to stay more than 10 minutes if it's not working.
I've taken dogs cragging hundreds of times, and hundreds of other times left them at home. In terms of our local area they do swell at small outback cliffs, but can't help being underfoot in the gymlike scene at popular sport crags. Things can go wrong for dogs left at the base of crowded multipitch cliffs too. I've done that in the past but no longer think it's wise. As cliffs have gotten more crowded they've gotten less dog friendly.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Jul 22, 2012 - 12:13pm PT
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This is just like so many other things in life. Your right to do what you want ends when it causes a problem for other people.
A well behaved dog while you are single pitch climbing is great. Dogs love the outdoors even more than people and as long as its legal and the appropriate place have every right to be there.
However you have idiots who leave dogs alone while multipitch climbing (e.g. At lovers leap) these dogs are often nervous when the master is away and bark, whine, or could even bite. Or you have people who let their dogs run around getting into other peoples stuff, or creating a nuisance. These people give dogs at the crag at bad name.
So then you get the people that say no dogs at the crags altogether because they assume all dogs/owners will cause problems. So leave them at home. Sorry but if my dog doesn't cause any problems he can come with me and my right and my dogs right to bet there outweigh your desire to simply not see my well behaved dog there.
So I wouldn't take a dog to lovers leap unless I had a person who was on the ground the whole time with them.
But some areas like most of the crags at lake bowman (search for a thread here about it) are great for dogs. It's uncrowned, single pitch, level at the base, etc.
Just realize some people will be happy to see and pet your dog, but others will get mad because they've experienced problems with dogs due to idiots who have ruined it for everyone by bringing problem dogs or bringing them to the wrong places.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Jul 22, 2012 - 12:40pm PT
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Well you better be armed and able to run quick Locker because this:
When threating our family changes to this in the blink of an eye. :-)
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