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Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Apr 27, 2012 - 12:26pm PT
Looks like NASA is giving Planetary Resources the thumbs up!




http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/nasa-applauds-private-plan-to-mine-asteroids

24-4-2012 05:34 PM EDT
NASA Applauds Private Plan To Mine Asteroids

NASA has finally weighed in on the ambitious plans revealed Tuesday by billionaire-backed private company, Planetary Resources, to mine near-earth asteroids using a fleet of robotic drill-bearing robots. NASA’s associate administrator for communications David Weaver provided TPM with the following statement:

“This project aligns well with our national space policies and goals. President Obama has set the United States on an ambitious path for deep space exploration, seeking to send humans to an asteroid for the first time and ultimately to Mars. As NASA leads this effort, we will certainly look to take advantage of private-sector resources and data. This commercial interest affirms our path forward – a path that relies on private-sector partnerships and innovation to reduce the overall costs to the taxpayer, create jobs and advance our space exploration program.”

Reported by Carl Franzen
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Apr 27, 2012 - 12:32pm PT
Wired magazine always has good articles . . .



Tech Billionaires Plan Audacious Mission to Mine Asteroids
By Adam Mann Email Author April 23, 2012 | 7:45 pm | Categories: Space

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/04/planetary-resources-asteroid-mining/
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Apr 27, 2012 - 02:37pm PT
Loophole Could Allow Private Land Claims on Other Worlds
By Adam Mann
April 5, 2012 |  6:30 am | 
http://m.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/04/moon-mars-property/
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Apr 27, 2012 - 02:56pm PT
Asteroid Mining: To Infinity and Beyond, But What are the Legal Implications?
APRIL 26, 2012 18:40 MICHAEL J. LISTNER
http://www.spacesafetymagazine.com/2012/04/26/commercial-space-leap-earth-orbit-legal-implications/
Dos XX

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2012 - 07:18pm PT
I guess I could get more worked up about my possible claim to mineral resources on the two minor planets that I discovered, except that Planetary Resources is apparently going to focus only on Near Earth Asteroids (NEAs) because of the lower energy cost to reach them. NEA's can be as close to Earth as a few million kilometers, or less, whereas 2004PC27 (now named Eliewiesel) and 2004PX42 (now named Johnmuir) are Main Belt asteroids, and are way, way out there. Today, April 27th 2012, 2004PC27 is 498 million km from Earth, and 2004PX42 is at a distance of 434 million km.



I am listed as a co-discoverer of a handful of NEAs, but I guess that means I'd have to share a claim to any mineral wealth :-(
Dos XX

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 1, 2012 - 11:20am PT

Interesting opinion piece at WIRED.COM regarding the legality of mineral claims on celestial objects.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/05/opinion-asteroid-mining/
splitter

Trad climber
Hodad surfing the galactic plane
May 1, 2012 - 11:34am PT
The only "mining" that will be effectively taking place will be the mining of all of the dumb f*#ks pocket books who are deluded into investing their cash into this spaced-out venture!!

Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
May 1, 2012 - 04:11pm PT

Interesting opinion piece at WIRED.COM regarding the legality of mineral claims on celestial objects.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/05/opinion-asteroid-mining/




DosXX,

That is a very interesting legal opinion. The arguement would be in favor of the astro-miners extracting from an asteroid or planetary body. Perhaps not the whole asteroid (maybe or maybe not?), and certainly not the whole planetary body, but taking portions of it and claiming ownership seems to agree with space law.

Seems this can also can be applied to meteorite ownership issues found on Earth to some degree. Finders keepers. There is an arguement to be made here, while also considering the land ownership issues.

However, they fail to consisder who actually owns all of it and throughout the Universe without dispute -- GOD. And GOD gives to whom he wills. So who's going to challenge GOD's ownership? Lol.





Psalm 24 :1,2
The King of Glory Entering Zion.
A Psalm of David.
" 1 The earth is the LORD’S, and all it contains, The world, and those who dwell in it. 2 For He has founded it upon the seas And established it upon the rivers."

Deuteronomy 10:14
“To the LORD your God belong the heavens, even the highest heavens, the earth and everything in it.”
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
May 4, 2012 - 07:25pm PT
Some of that "gold" from up there ended up in Cali.

Worth $1000+ a gram.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17944373

The real story is in the vid at the link.
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
May 4, 2012 - 08:02pm PT
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
May 4, 2012 - 08:44pm PT
This thread needs to be linked to the Sutter's Mill meteorite witnessed fall and now find ...


Tahoe Meteor
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1807497&msg=1815689#msg1815689


If you want a piece of this Carbonaceous Chondrites CM2, pieces are on EBay already. There is apparently a 2kg find for $700,000 buy now.


http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=230785770070
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Jan 24, 2013 - 05:49pm PT
1-22-13

New company announced its getting into the Asteroid business just like Planetary Resources announced last 4-22-12. The new company is called
Deep Space Industries, Inc.


Asteroid-Mining Project Aims for Deep-Space Colonies
By Mike Wall | SPACE.com

http://news.yahoo.com/asteroid-mining-project-aims-deep-space-colonies-050627126.html



Is Space Big Enough for Two Asteroid-Mining Companies?
by Mike Wall, SPACE.com Senior Writer
Date: 22 January 2013

http://www.space.com/19380-asteroid-mining-spaceflight-competition.html


The startup of two asteroid-mining firms — along with the rise of private spaceflight companies such as California-based SpaceX — is a sign that humanity may finally be taking real steps toward the long-held dream of permanent space settlement, Tumlinson said.

"One company may be a fluke," he said. "Two companies showing up? That's the beginning of an industry."




TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Feb 14, 2013 - 01:24am PT
A fly-by of resources

You have probably heard about the DA14 asteroid set to give the Earth a close-shave, tomorrow (15/2).

What you probably haven’t heard is that it may be worth nearly $200 billion, according to prospective asteroid miners, Deep Space Industries. Launched in 22 Jan, the company intends to do the same with Planetary Resources,another contender; harvest our space visitors' resources.

The prediction of $65 billion of recoverable water and $130 billion of recoverable metal, may be kind of a guess (the consistency of the asteroid is not clearly known); however it can clearly illustrate the abundance of other asteroids' resources waiting to be extracted. Deep Space Industries officials do not intend to go after the DA14, since its orbit makes it too difficult to chase it down.

"While this week's visitor isn't going the right way for us to harvest it, there will be others that are, and we want to be ready when they arrive," Deep Space chairman Rick Tumlinson said in a statement on Tuesday.

The whole idea of space mining involves reducing the amount of material launched from Earth to high-orbit. Current costs are at least $10 million to send 1 ton of material into orbit.

Space rock water could be turned into rocket fuel, and asteroidal metals could provide the basis for manufacturing a space industry, building spaceships and other human habitats. And all this off the planet. Deep Space plans to send robotic scout probes to potential targets in 2015, with sample-return missions shortly thereafter, and possibly beginning space mining operations in about 2020.

Info on the DA14 asteroid: http://on.fb.me/YX9I4i

Info on asteroid mining: http://on.fb.me/11GiKIq

-CHD

Source: http://www.space.com/19758-asteroid-worth-billions-2012-da14-flyby.html
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