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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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It's all part of that bargain the cave folks made with wolves, which has worked out so well for us both.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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The master of the house from his throne survey's his subjects:
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Hard Rock
Trad climber
Montana
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My dogs carry gear, break ski trails and play with each other. I feed them and give them a place to stay. It seems to work out pretty well. I think they are easy. I can also exercise them using a bike and I am out at 6am so no leases.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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If you get a job you will NEVER have even one day of your life completly free.
Certainly does not apply to all jobs! And honestly, it's a bitter perspective as you felt the OP's was.
One is only enslaved by a dog or a menial job if they allow it. Go ahead, free yourself from the dog - let it starve and die. See? Wasn't that easy?
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thekidcormier
Gym climber
squamish, b.c.
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Up here in the truth north strong and free....
oh wait I'm not free at all, I'm confined by the responsibilities of owning a dog... poor me
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neversummer
Trad climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
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This is lame...did a dog piss on you alot as a kid or did you get yur little leg humped too much...if you dont want the responsibility of a dog dont get one.
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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This is why I won't ever have a dog, too much work. I already raised two kids and do not want the responsibility of taking care of a dog. If a person brings a dog into their life they do have the responsibility to take excellent care of it, I see too many people neglect them.
However, I have a cat, she is practically no work at all. I do not have to walk her, never have to bath her, she is very independent and content. Admittedly, I am a cat person so biased towards owning a cat.
This is interesting, my former roommate had this cat and she loved to play fetch, she played far better than any dog I've ever witnessed. I taught her to bring the toy up into my lap. She learned quickly if she did not do this I would not play, it was really cute.
I love dogs just do not want the responsibility of one. Going to a dog park is highly entertaining for me, their different personalities are cute.
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FTOR
Sport climber
CA
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dogs suck...
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Someone needs to start a clone thread;
"This is your dog on rugs."
The cat diary thing is funny though false.
Cats DO come back but in their own sweet time.
Unless they come into my yard and threaten the lizards.
But the thing is; when cats rub their heads against people they are leaving a scent to tell other cats that this slave belongs to them.
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SCseagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Almost all dog owners are SLAVES and do not even know it
Know it and love it.
Susan
As I go to pick up a new foster dog for Lab Rescue
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cms
Trad climber
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hey Will
point taken - i was waiting for that ;-)
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canyoncat
Social climber
SoCal
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Unlike children, my dog accepted that no means no. He didn't continue to whine about toys or treats, or whether he could play at the neighbor's house. Unlike children, my dog didn't take more than $100K to raise.
Unlike men, my dog always greeted me with a smile and a hug, and he never complained if I gained a pound or two. He never fought me for control of the remote, and he sat with me when I wanted to see a chick flick.
Oh yeah, I'm enslaved. Happily enslaved to a wonderful dog best friend.
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hossjulia
Social climber
Eastside (of the Tetons)
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I needed my dog. Did not realize it until the night he was gone and I had to walk to my yurt in the dark. Damn deer in the bushes made me scream like a girl. Now that he is gone, been gone for 4 years now, I find my fear factors to be out of control. He was my guardian, protector and friend, without all the language driven bs.
I am now an official basket case without his silent watch-my-rear guarding presence and friendship.
Sure, this means I have serious issues, but the dog made me feel safe and gave me something to focus on besides my self.
Why do I not get another dog? for all the reasons the OP listed, plus my current job situation is decidedly NOT dog friendly. Max, my Shepard, came to me with a host of issues I'm not sure I want to take on again.
A cat. That would be sweet. I would teach it to walk on a leash and ride in the car, just like a puppy (poor cat, lol)
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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If you get a job you will NEVER have even one day of your life completly free.
Certainly does not apply to all jobs! And honestly, it's a bitter perspective as you felt the OP's was.
One is only enslaved by a dog or a menial job if they allow it. Go ahead, free yourself from the dog - let it starve and die. See? Wasn't that easy?
Crimpie - Though I do, personally, have issues with working under others, I did intend my word exchange to be seen as humorous, and though I suppose I could have asterisked a disclaimer, expected people would give me the benefit of doubt - understand I didn't really believe that EVERY PERSON, who has any sort of job, is enslaved by that work.
I work harder on my own ventures than I ever did working for someone else, make a fraction the income, yet feel free to do as I please.
Also -I think it is interesting that your perspective saw the bit as a reference to menial jobs, and am wondering what sorts of jobs that might be limited to.... When I was doing the copy.paste, I was envisioning the work I did as a designer/merchandiser, and some of the corporate/office/small business work as an employee of those I know and have had input in over the years.
For myself, I was at the top of the heap, so far as being a designer/merchandiser went, and responsible for developing product lines for multi-million dollar accounts. I took great pride in bringing it to the table, and was hired quite often as what we would consider a ropegun - the company had lapsed in their design department for whatever reason, and the time frame for top out was often way run out; no time to stop for pro - there was a storm a'comin(Market Week). They'd hire me knowing I would hit the ground running and make them look like gold. That doesn't seem very menial to me....
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Also -I think it is interesting that your perspective saw the bit as a reference to menial jobs, and am wondering what sorts of jobs that might be limited to.... When I was doing the copy.paste, I was envisioning the work I did as a designer/merchandiser, and some of the corporate/office/small business work as an employee of those I know and have had input in over the years.
Not sure what I said pointed to thinking this pertained only to menial jobs.
I think it's mostly a state of mind. Some people love what they do. Some people think what they do matters and makes a positive difference in the lives of others. I think that is the distinction - not menial.
And really, as stated above, EVERYTHING has the ability to enslave us. Many of us going willingly and wouldn't trade it for anything (e.g., my parrots, Dave, my research).
edit: and sorry but I didn't catch the humor in your post. Sorry! Hopefully people saw the sarcasm in mine about letting a dog die. Would hate anyone to think I am a proponent of that.
double edit: Haha! I see where you got the 'menial' part. I wrote it! Doh. Poor choice of words on my part. I retract that as I know many so-called menial jobs that are vitally important and people are happy with.
The opposite for so called not-menial jobs as well. My bad!
triple edit: Wondering what I was referring to early with menial and I think it has to do with the 'boss' part. I think most 'menial' (however defined) jobs have bosses. Many other jobs do not. But honestly, who knows what I was thinking.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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It was this, about the menial thing:
One is only enslaved by a dog or a menial job if they allow it.
I agree, one can be enslaved by anything; it is often a state of mind....
But I have to say that the absolute insistence of this dogged slavery the OP referred to was what rankled me. It does seem bitter, and a bit odd - to make a thread specifically to expound the theory.
Unless it is intended as one of those damned troll thread, I suppose; if so, and it turns out the OP has a chihuaua that he dresses in tutus and sunglasses, or works with training service dogs or similar, that - well done!
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Check out my triple edit - maybe you haven't seen it (scroll up)
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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I think most 'menial' (however defined) jobs have bosses.
Interesting, because for me a 'menial' job would be one which doesn't really pay enough to stay afloat even when being frugal, and also includes being in the sort of category that people consider suitable for high school students working for extra spending money, but an adult doing the same would be looked down upon as being "lazy" and other derogatory terms.
Back to dogs - I guess I Heart CB&D(Canine Bondage & Discipline, since the dog dog keeps us tied down and doing their bidding).
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Dogs are more needy than even children.
LOL! Never took care of a baby huh?
Of course the level of inconvenience depends on the dog(s) and the situation. But they still take way less time/care/energy than a kid in my experience. But of course the reward is much less.
If you get the right breed, individual and circumstance they can be very low maintenance. Not much difference between our dogs and cat. Our neighbor's kids feed them when we are away. Leaving the kids for a few days/weeks is a much bigger deal/concern.
If yo live in an apartment and get a high energy dog that barks/whines and needs constant attention and exercise you brought that on yourself.
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FTOR
Sport climber
CA
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ball and chain...
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