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sandstone conglomerate
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sharon conglomerate central
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I guess zero would be something,as it is assigned a value. Maybe infinite is all in perception, like assigning nothing a number, 0. If it is infinite, than all possible realties could be represented, because of the limitlessness. I can't conceive of it, at least on a practical scale.
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gonzo chemist
climber
Fort Collins, CO
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The Atacama Desert: The DRIEST desert on Earth.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Jim:
Infinite, unless you are a quibbler.
As a proof: drink wine, until every star becomes two stars.
Also! Whaz up with that Southern Cross Schist?
Never saw it (that I know of) in 10 days in the Bariloche area?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2011 - 09:23pm PT
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If it is finite what else is there? If it is infinite.....just what does that mean?
Fritz, Angela and I are getting to San Pedro de Atacama tomorrow. I have heard tales of an "infinite" number of cracks there....we shall see.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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If it is infinite it dictates a release of all preconceptions and demands that you surrender to the whims of chance.
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MH2
climber
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I'm curious how does the finite become infinite? How does that happen?
1,2,3...
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MH2
climber
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Your list STARTS somewhere, ergo it is not infinite.
Intuition is not of great use on the subject of the infinite. Unless the list has an end, it is infinite. Maybe you are thinking of a different infinite, though.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Space is incredibly inconceivably large.
Whenever we look we just see more of it.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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BITD when I had time to think about these things, the concept of infinite time and space were relevant and fascinating to think about.
Now, not so much so. Just trying to survive today. Maybe that is short side thinking.
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Mike Bolte
Trad climber
Planet Earth
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you guys need start thinking in terms of curved spacetime if you want to get a handle on the difference between an infinite and finite universe. Not curved surfaces in a universe, curved spacetime that is the universe.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Nothing becomes infinite.
Infinity just is.
What's the currently accepted theory? Is space expanding or in stasis?
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MH2
climber
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Your list started at 1 and ended at 3. Not infinite, ellipses aside.
Yah, I think I saw this in Pogo once, too.
Alright Mr. Smartypants, what is the biggest integer?
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Where are you bound?
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Hey...Don't bust the Internet.
What would become of the 'Tards?
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WBraun
climber
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There are infinite number of Universes.
And there is no such thing as chance without plan .....
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F10
Trad climber
Bishop
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Either way it's a tough one to comprehend, I've tried
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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What do you mean by that Werner?
Manifest destiny, so to speak?
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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If you allow that the entire universe, whatever that is, actually only exists within a consciousness that is beyond space and time, how can it not be infinite? Eternity is not just an infinitely long time but an existence beyond time
WHich is beyond the conceiving power of the mind
Peace
Karl
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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Study mathematical analysis to become familiar with infinite processes. After a while it's all in a day's work! Mathematical set theory will give you a (somewhat disorienting)feeling for the various infinities.
Regarding cosmology though, isn't there a theory that the universe "expands" by creating space (and time?) in the process?
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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David St. Hubbins: Well, I don't really think that the end can be assessed as of itself as being the end because what does the end feel like? It's like saying when you try to extrapolate the end of the universe, you say, if the universe is indeed infinite, then how - what does that mean? How far is all the way, and then if it stops, what's stopping it, and what's behind what's stopping it? So, what's the end, you know, is my question to you.
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Phantom X
Trad climber
Honeycomb Hideout
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Mr. Donini, I've come to expect this kind of bewildering question from our brooding scientist, however a man of your stature should know better.
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