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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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"They only publish provisionals when a full patent is submitted that references it."
In order to be patent pending, you must have submitted your "non-Provisional"
So I guess I did not understand disaster, I assumed since he claimed "Patent Pending" He had already submitted his NP application.
I have 2 items that are being reviewed finally after 3 years. Both are "Patent Pending" and thus "published" for research.
A provisional just marks the date of the invention, allowing 1 year to submit a NP.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Wow, My attorneys had told me otherwise.
Provisional Apps expire in 1 year making the item "Public Domain".
Once I was Published, the patent office sent a letter explaining the research process, then barring any conflicts, I would be issued a patent #.
That link was very helpful in answering a few questions.
Once you are "Published", you are essentially locked in and any production of your product outside your scope is cause for a lawsuit.
Or so I have been told by my expensive team of lawmen :)
Thanks for the info Arik!
Edited to say provisional expires in 1 year. Not 12 years as previously posted.
whooops!
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adatesman
Trad climber
philadelphia, pa
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No prob, Mucci. It's a very confusing process with a lot of conflicting info out there, which makes life difficult for folks like us. Personally I found "Patent It Yourself" by David Pressman to be quite helpful in getting a grasp on it all. My patent attorney, not so helpful and horribly expensive to boot.
-aric.
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martygarrison
Trad climber
The Great North these days......
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I just find this kinda sad
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Outside
Trad climber
Truckee
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Hey Paul
Did you invent the removable bolt? Or who did? I don't think they have ever been seen here on the taco.......very cool idea I thought.
Peace
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Disaster Master
Sport climber
Arcata / Santa Rosa, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 11, 2010 - 02:26pm PT
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Sweet invention. I think it should be called Humphrey's Helping Hand! Why diddn't I think of that?! I like it. Could lead to off color jokes, though. (even better!)
To patent questions: I will say no more about legal questions. It's good, don't mess with my intilectual property. This post is an act of generosity and information.
Did you invent the removable bolt? Or who did? I don't think they have ever been seen here on the taco.......very cool idea I thought.
No. The RB was invented by the founders of Climb Tech industries, carl guthrie and joe shwartz. (?) spelling / names might not be quite right.
I was an early adoptor, got a bunch, used them, wrote about them in Rock and Ice Mag. (issue #94 maybe???!!!)"TO RB or NOT to RB".
Loved them for some things. Not as great for other things. Just like any other gear. Its a tool box, right?
C-ya,
Paul Humphrey
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Oct 11, 2010 - 02:59pm PT
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What Marty said. . .
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Oct 11, 2010 - 03:12pm PT
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I've used an Epic stick clip to place cams from a distance for quite a number of years. You can jam most cams (BD, Wild Country, and Metolius) in the ears and the trigger fits below the first horizontal piece while the stem butts up against the bottom one. Works well.
http://www.epicsport.com/products.300.html
Cheers,
-Brian in SLC
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Disaster Master
Sport climber
Arcata / Santa Rosa, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 11, 2010 - 03:36pm PT
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I just find this kinda sad
Absolutly, It is sad. In fact it is evil. But as a preachers son, I must follow the Dark Lord.
DISASTER MASTER
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Oct 11, 2010 - 04:01pm PT
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The Dark Lord has the Sack to put in his own Pro. . .
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Oct 11, 2010 - 04:06pm PT
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cool aid thingy. what's this have to do with trad climbing?
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bringmedeath
climber
la la land
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Oct 11, 2010 - 04:16pm PT
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That is so TRADitional...
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Chinchen
climber
Way out there....
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Oct 11, 2010 - 04:26pm PT
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Does the "Disaster Master" refer to himself in the third person?
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Oct 11, 2010 - 04:27pm PT
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Write up a full set of plans and instructions. And sell it as an ebook.
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Oct 11, 2010 - 06:13pm PT
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Am I the only doddering old fart who thinks that gear is supposed to be placed by climbers, not by gadgets on poles?
Never mind...carry on, lads.
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Oct 11, 2010 - 06:19pm PT
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Maybe the only old fart who's never hit the ground at the start of a route for lack of a stick clip and busted an ankle?
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Oct 11, 2010 - 06:34pm PT
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If you established a free route using the gadget, how would you describe it? Anything goes sport climbing but to attach the word "trad" is absurd. Still a cheater stick...
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Oct 11, 2010 - 08:28pm PT
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"Maybe the only old fart who's never hit the ground at the start of a route for lack of a stick clip and busted an ankle?"
No there are hundreds, if not thousands, of those old farts.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Oct 11, 2010 - 10:47pm PT
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The schtick you save, may be your own...
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