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alpinerockfiend
Trad climber
greater Yosemite
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Sep 26, 2010 - 10:02pm PT
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Y'all are SO STUPID to vilify Patagucci for making clothes that appeal to the wealthy yuppie masses. Marmot, Mtn. Hardwear, TNF, etc... all make similar bullsh#t. I would never pay full retail for any of it (that's what the sweet outlets in SLC and Reno are for), but if you're paying retail for outdoor gear you're kind of a schmuck anyway. And if you want to talk about the stupid "sportswear", "lifestyle" wear, etc... that they make, I will say that Patagonia's looks better than anyone else's! Shame on them for making unaffordable stylie shirts, wahh wahh wahh! You think making clothing for penny-pinching dirtbags gets old Yvon a sick "vacation" house in the Tetons? Think again! But more power to him for running a private, successful, transparent, environmentally responsible business. A business that probably does more for the areas you recreate in than your own sorry asses ever have!
FWIW, every piece I've ever owned of theirs (minus one, which they replaced quickly) has withstood multiple years of abuse. Rock on Patagonia! I love you guys.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Sep 26, 2010 - 10:09pm PT
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Bought a pair of hardshell rain pants in about87. the photo in the add showed them used for ice climbing. My partner and myself both had the same pants. One glisade down Lions head and both out pants were in shredds. So I guess that Puts 87 as the year they sold out... My pile stuff from before that was bomber.. We did start calling them paddigucci in the late eightys..
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nita
Social climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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Sep 26, 2010 - 10:16pm PT
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I have to give Patagonia a shout out for supporting the Facelift...Thank You!!
Happigirrl won a killer jacket. Very cool surprise for Happi, especially since a little bear tore up her climbing pack....which is now held together with duct tape.
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Nohea
Trad climber
Sunny Aiea,Hi
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Sep 26, 2010 - 10:16pm PT
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Rock on Patagonia! I love you guys.
I have never tossed Patagucci, their stuff gets beat up, unwashed for weeks, worn to both campfires and weddings, birthday parties and funerals, ground breaking and summiting. Yvon asks Let my People Surf and we do
Aloha
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Aya K
Trad climber
New York
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Sep 26, 2010 - 10:27pm PT
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Love it.
Not really any pricier than any other clothing, outdoor or otherwise unless you're buying cheap crap that's going to fall apart in a year or two, and it holds up way better and for the most part looks great. Their sizing has been less influenced by the make fat people feel good trend too. Ten years ago, I was a size 8 at the gap. Now, 10 lbs heavier, I'm a 4, and that is sometimes big on me. Same goes for TNF, Marmot, etc. Ten years ago I was an 8 at Patagonia. Now, I'm a 6 +/- a size depending on style. Mammut is great for that too. I'm a medium. Not an extra small (hello mountain hardwear). I get tons of compliments on my pants even from all my fashiony friends about how flattering my pants are...
Psyched that they brought the stretch element bibs back for women after they were gone last winter... now if I can come up with the $400 for them I will be all set!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Sep 27, 2010 - 12:37am PT
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strange outfit, patagonia. yvon's ambition is for it to continue being a great company 100 years from now. he should be in the ale business.
i get along with surfers, got nothing against them. but climbing is climbing and surfing is surfing, and yvon turned out to be a surfer at heart. i find the climbing aspect of patagonia to be tag-on and irritating. their clothing isn't practical or affordable, but that capilene underwear can't be beat. that's about it. nice underwear shop.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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Sep 27, 2010 - 01:11am PT
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1991 called and wants its complaints about Pataguch back.
Last week I wore a capaline thing that I wore like everyday in 1994. My wife keeps angling for a replacement, but the thing is still bomber.
I've only had one thing over the years that I had a problem with- some pants that just were not up to the AZ back country. I sent them in, with holes in both legs and the azz). Full refund, no questions asked.
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Oxymoron
Big Wall climber
total Disarray
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Sep 27, 2010 - 01:25am PT
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My Gucci things are quite nice, to this day.
Yes, they are old. Still work, however.
Full props.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Sep 27, 2010 - 07:08am PT
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$400 clams for a pair of pants? GMAFB allready.. I wear EMS underwear that i get when it is 20% discount and my outer shel is back to the $50.00 wool pants that i bought for hunting 4 years ago..
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Tahoe climber
climber
Davis these days
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Sep 27, 2010 - 12:51pm PT
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Patagucci = pay a little more, but you only have to buy it once.
Haven't tried the shoes, though I'm a little dubious - that kind of stuff takes a couple of years to get right.
The lifestyle stuff is not my bag - but I love most of their climbing clothing, surf clothing, base layers, outerwear, snowgear....
And yes, the sizing thing changes over time for sure as you find better/different manufacturers overseas. Pretty standard stuff, really.
Marmot and Mt Hardwear both make good stuff too, but the fit can be a bit boxy, especially on the latter.
You want to complain about over-priced button up T's, you should probably re-focus on North Face. Or Columbia. Etc.
TC
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atchafalaya
climber
Babylon
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Sep 27, 2010 - 01:33pm PT
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Patagonia clothing is really great, affordable and lasts forever. The key is not buying it at retail shops. Go to the outlets, shop web specials online, try sierra trading post.
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Aya K
Trad climber
New York
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Sep 27, 2010 - 01:38pm PT
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tradman - I am happy to shell out a bit more for stuff that works and fits. Worked at EMS for ten years. Used to buy stuff because it was cheap. And sure, it generally worked okay, but it was never perfect... never fit quite right so I'd be catching crampons or what have you, never had exactly the features I wanted like drop seat + suspenders, wasn't breathable enough, etc. So I ended up buying stuff every few years because I'd find something just a tad better. Several EMS pants, marmot pants, OR pants... Kind of a waste. Happy to spend $400 once for something perfect which I know Patagonia will stand behind rather than $150 every few years for stuff that's okay but I know I will toss as soon as I see something a little better....
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Sep 27, 2010 - 02:24pm PT
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A business that probably does more for the areas you recreate in than your own sorry asses ever have!
Hahahaha! Please take your meds, you seem to be extra delusional today.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Sep 27, 2010 - 06:07pm PT
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My woolies are perfect ;)
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alpinerockfiend
Trad climber
the Bozone
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Sep 28, 2010 - 08:32pm PT
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ElCap- what's wrong with my statement? It's probably true. The company does a lot for America's public lands. Easy to find that info. Saying that they do more than the average selfish idiot rock climber isn't too big of a reach.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Sep 28, 2010 - 09:20pm PT
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Patagonia not only does more than their share for conservation they have been very influential in getting other companies to step up. The clothing may be expensive but it sure as hell is a good buy. I still am wearing COTTON SPORTSWEAR items that are 25 years old and still look good. It's easy to throw darts at companies/people who are successful. Seems to be a favorite ST activity.
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Kalimon
Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
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Sep 28, 2010 - 10:10pm PT
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RJ,
Red Skelton bump! I used to sit on my Grandfathers lap at the ripe old age of three and laugh my ass off watching his show . . . had not thought about him in far too long. Klem Kadiddlehopper rules.
There is no substitute for Capilene . . . the best long underwear, pants down.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Sep 28, 2010 - 10:23pm PT
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Ditto on the Capilene comfort and longevity - I practically live in the damn things year round.
But don't overlook the dubious trait of being able to battle a skunk on it's own terms.
"In this corner weighing in at 169 pounds, RickyD and his 20 year old Patigucci Capilene armpits...".
Part of the Patti charm to be sure, but definitely an acquired taste so to speak.
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