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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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May 31, 2010 - 12:52pm PT
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If we're talking brits though- think castle rock in the Bay Area. At some point late 80" early 90's, they bolted and scrubbed every possible variation in the area.
How many of those were really worth the the bolts?
There's two bolt stuff there that could be highball boulders in the modern age. Also plenty of stuff that should have been left as top ropes and variations.
This is what you were getting at right?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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May 31, 2010 - 12:56pm PT
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Roxy, do you have any idea what you are talking about? Or a you trolling poorly?
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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May 31, 2010 - 12:59pm PT
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I almost hate to admit this but California is the most diverse and most beautiful state in the union.
There is also an endless amount of rock...good and choss to be climbed.
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TwistedCrank
climber
Ideeho-dee-do-dah-day boom-chicka-boom-chicka-boom
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May 31, 2010 - 01:07pm PT
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It's a little known fact that certain parts of California aren't actually in California. Or at least they shouldn't be.
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Douglas Rhiner
Mountain climber
Good question?!?!?!?!?
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May 31, 2010 - 01:09pm PT
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Bob,
You are so right on.
Greates diversity in geography, geology, nationalities, recreation, food, drink and good times.
California does have it's problems, but every state has some pretty screwed up things about them.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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May 31, 2010 - 01:09pm PT
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I'm moving to Santa Fe, NM surely one of the most beautiful cities in the world.
I'll be climbing the choss basalt in the area...everything is a trade off.
Douglas...California truly is an amazing place.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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May 31, 2010 - 01:10pm PT
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I say that's good news!
Population center, mungefest, n00b attractant, outdoor gym, I see no problem.
It would be a much bigger problem if these crowds were crawling all over the real backcountry and clusterf*cking the good stuff.
Am I missing something here?
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Douglas Rhiner
Mountain climber
Good question?!?!?!?!?
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May 31, 2010 - 01:15pm PT
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Have not been to Santa Fe in many, many years but do recall it being amazing!
However, I'm heading that way, ultimately to Angelfire, soon for work.
Can't wait.
Every state to me has some darn cool stuff. Even though you may have to "look" for it.
EDIT: Even Idaho. ;-)
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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May 31, 2010 - 01:16pm PT
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Bob,
I can't wait til you get here.
I need a partner.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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May 31, 2010 - 01:16pm PT
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Douglas...we should hook up...great climbing near Taos.
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noshoesnoshirt
climber
Arkansas, I suppose
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May 31, 2010 - 01:17pm PT
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California would be an awesome place to live if it weren't so full of Californians.
edit: nothin' against Californians, there's just so dang many of you.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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May 31, 2010 - 01:18pm PT
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Survival...I'll email my phone number. I'll be living on the south side of town till I move the family down in October. Looking forward to climbing with you.
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Douglas Rhiner
Mountain climber
Good question?!?!?!?!?
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May 31, 2010 - 01:24pm PT
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Bob,
When I get the firm dates I'll be out there I'll see what I can pull off!
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WBraun
climber
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May 31, 2010 - 01:25pm PT
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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May 31, 2010 - 01:38pm PT
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I find this funny we said the same things in the seventys - eightys -ninetys - when you fly over the sierras you see a lot of incredable rock all of it explored before you were born. people like NORMAN CLYDE - JONH MUIR - & many more. I crew up in the sierras & was taught to go in do your climb or whatever & get out without leaving a mark - so that the next people there had the feeling that they were the first there. climbers need to get over our selfs. There are people in the back county, maybe not you but there are still people going to places like the - Gorge of despair - Black divide - & so much more. As long as you all need to put your name on something this is only going to get worse.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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May 31, 2010 - 01:50pm PT
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Simple...don't like California...don't go there.
Roxjox wrote: Frumy has the goods. Whatever happened to LEAVE NO TRACE in climbing? THAT was the ethic I was raised in.
So what is your point??
That you are cool or everyone should be like you?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 31, 2010 - 02:10pm PT
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And how many routes are on this?
A couple or three on the chossy part to the right, none on the left.
Sic 'em boys 'n girls!
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habitat
climber
grass pass
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May 31, 2010 - 02:45pm PT
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It's a little known fact that certain parts of California aren't actually in California. Or at least they shouldn't be.
Good one....and certain parts of Nevada are in California....where they should be....
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Prezwoodz
climber
Anchorage
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May 31, 2010 - 02:56pm PT
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Jim I don't know if you've been climbing in Hatcher Pass but i'd assume so. Either way an invites always open if your coming through Alaska. Lots of other crags too.
Also my friend Nick Weicht has been talking about his recent roadtrip and said the highlight of his trip was that he met up and climbed with you as you were "such an awesome guy".
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 31, 2010 - 03:08pm PT
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I've lost count of the number of fun trips to Cal.
A good place to visit if you avoid the crowds, but I wouldn't want to live there.
Some suggestions for legal ordnance;
wooden stocked Mini-14 with a pile of ten rd clips
Ruger PC4 with a pile of ten rd clips
single stack 1911s
riot guns (get some dust-buster rds)
and get a good mouthpiece
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