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Paulina
Trad climber
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Jan 18, 2010 - 04:14pm PT
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The separation of discussion from trip report is a bit confusing to me - I replied on the trip reports forum to say 'thanks' and, well, whatever I said there. :-)
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Jan 18, 2010 - 08:08pm PT
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Ah, retro-TRs....
My first trips up Cathedral and Whitehorse came only slightly before Ed's -- in October 1977.
I had just moved out East, clutching a Climbing article by Ed Webster that claimed there
were good climbs to be done.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Jan 18, 2010 - 08:11pm PT
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On a short fall day Steve Larson and I climbed two of those routes Ed had mentioned --
Diedre and Sliding Board. Old hat for Steve, a UNH student then, but brand new
introductions to the two crags for me.
I thought Webster was right, these were cool.
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Jan 18, 2010 - 09:55pm PT
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Steve Larson and I graduated in the same class from High School.
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cleo
Social climber
Berkeley, CA
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Jan 19, 2010 - 12:32am PT
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So nice, someday when I'm back home (in Vermont), I'll have to actually go climbing!
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slobmonster
Trad climber
OAK (nee NH)
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Jan 19, 2010 - 07:30am PT
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The crux/"roof" move on Deidre is still pretty funky...
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slabbo
Trad climber
fort garland, colo
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Jan 19, 2010 - 10:03am PT
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Ah Yes Mark- some of the "manchester Bunch" a rather talented group to say the least. I still got my stawberry chalk bag and ya can still chalk to the elbow with it !
john
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Jan 19, 2010 - 10:12am PT
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A Mt Washington article in the latest Rock and Ice mentions Steve "Father Time" Larson.
Funny to read that after recalling Steve as a student.
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Seamstress
Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
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Jan 19, 2010 - 12:17pm PT
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I foundly remember camping in a development to be built just off West Side Road. Lot number 28. We camped there twice a month for several years. Very convenient. Pull in the roughed out driveway, and set up the tent in 30 seconds flat by car head light. The mosquitos could be vicious and inspired a tightly choreographed camp routine. We would shower at the sports club for the $5 per day fee - and use the rest of the facilities. Hit the Big Pickle for breakfast - a lot of climbers were there.
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L
climber
H2O..what is this H2O thing of which you speak?
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Jan 19, 2010 - 03:07pm PT
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Nice amble through the past, Ed. Many thanks!
A question came to mind as I read it, though...an annoyingly persistent question that could have monumental history-rewriting ramifications if it's found to be true.....
Did I actually read...in carved-in-stone cyber-print...that you chose to climb the tree instead of the dirty and poorly protected 5.8 off-width?????
Say it ain't so, Ed!!! Say it ain't so!
;-)
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2010 - 03:10pm PT
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we certainly cannot be forever held to the sins of our youth, L, as it is in other things, as I aged I came to see the truth in following the world wide ways.
I still hold a particular fondness for "vegetable" holds, though tempered by Debbie's admonishments...
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L
climber
H2O..what is this H2O thing of which you speak?
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Jan 19, 2010 - 03:18pm PT
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Ed,
My aghastment (yes, that's my newly created word as nothing currently in the dictionary is expressive enough) stems not from you touching a tree...but from you choosing a tree over a mossy, dirty, chance-of-dying-or-permanent-disfigurement grovel-fest!
See, I thought the OW fetish thing was genetic...
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Alan Rubin
climber
Amherst,MA.
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Jan 19, 2010 - 03:33pm PT
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Similar to the late,lamented "rotten log" on Royal Arches, the Refuse "tree", especially in it's later years, had it's own "chance of dying or permanent disfigurement" attractions, so perhaps Ed can get a dispensation for this "lapse".
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micronut
Trad climber
fresno, ca
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Jan 19, 2010 - 04:30pm PT
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Nice work Ed. Thanks for the stroll. Anybody know why they call it Whitehorse. Is a Horse, let alone a white one any part of the story?
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Jan 19, 2010 - 04:57pm PT
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Webster's guidebook relates that 19th-century observers discerned the outline of a
white horse in the ceilings to the R of the upper crux of Children's Crusade. Allegedly
this can still be seen, but I haven't tried to look for it.
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L
climber
H2O..what is this H2O thing of which you speak?
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Jan 19, 2010 - 05:56pm PT
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Those are some beautiful photos you posted, too, Larry.
Let me compliment you on them as I bump this fine thread back to the front page where it belongs...
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slabbo
Trad climber
fort garland, colo
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Jan 19, 2010 - 07:02pm PT
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Steve Larson- f/a Heather 12a 8 days 1980. It;s still pretty stiff. When we did the f/f/a of Aiwass, steve was the only one who gave us props. All others said 11+- right
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MH2
climber
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Jan 19, 2010 - 10:16pm PT
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Too bad about the Refuse tree, but if the Bierstadt comparison is accepted then, like John Howe has said about Squamish, the trees are winning.
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Derek
climber
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Jan 20, 2010 - 09:29am PT
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Mark Hudon and Steve Larson in the same HS class, huh? Must of had a helluva gym teacher.
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slabbo
Trad climber
fort garland, colo
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Jan 20, 2010 - 09:32am PT
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And of course another pretty good climber from the area named Dunn.
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