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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Jun 25, 2008 - 12:33am PT
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Hare Krishna....
Om Shanti
Edit: So, nita, George sings of "(his) sweet lord". Who was his lord? Vishnu? Krishna being the 7th incarnation of Vishnu and (Krishna) being like, the dude, in the Gita... etc. etc. Just wondering. I mean, George sings the song like some western evangelical so it's kinda confusing.... (to me at least).
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nita
climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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Jun 25, 2008 - 12:46am PT
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Nature,I don't know... i always assumed he, like you.. believes in more than one God.??? More than one way to enlightenment.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jun 25, 2008 - 01:09am PT
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If you talk to most serious students of most of Indian philosophy, it turns out that the vast majority believe there is only One ultimate Spiritual Being and the rest of the show projects from that.
Pretty much the same as Christianity (unless you play games with the Trinity not being One)
We have to assume All the Religions are pointing to the same One Ultimate truth. It's just that they go about misunderstanding and misinterpreting it in different ways according to their tradition, culture and politics.
Yup, same God made all those Gay people. That's why there are found everywhere.
But, I have to admit, God seems to be smiting California at the moment. Funny thing is, the fires are burning closer to where the rednecks (not that there's anything wrong with that) live, rather than the gay neighborhoods.
Peace
Karl
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nita
climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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Jun 25, 2008 - 01:20am PT
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"Funny thing is, the fires are burning closer to where the rednecks (not that there's anything wrong with that) live, rather than the gay neighborhoods.aaaa"
Karl, yep..new fires in the foothills above Chico.. again. Lots o Redneck and regular folks live in them hills. Smoky as hell here..cough.cough..
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jun 25, 2008 - 01:26am PT
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Some non-Christians, particularly some Muslims, see Christianity as a form of polytheism. There certainly are a lot of holy spirits, angels, saints and blessed subsidiaries, not to mention all the holy relatives.
I'm fairly sure that George was actually trying to say "He's so fine" - even though it cost him $587,000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He's_So_Fine
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Doug Buchanan
Mountain climber
Fairbanks Alaska
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Jun 25, 2008 - 06:00am PT
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Late at night as usual, and not to be outdone by such a grand array of intellect among my astute SuperTopo colleagues for an issue so central to quality climbing opportunities, and having not read most of the thread, wisely recognize that the design of living species requires mechanisms (several) to slow reproduction upon approaching or reaching the maximum species population for their current or optimum ecosystem condition.
My last casual notice of the current stats revealed somewhere over 150 larger species having been verified as manifesting homosexual activities in relation to real or test situation over-population, if my memory on that data is correct.
Blame it on the designer, God, the scientists, George Bush or the Californians, but it is a logical mechanism inherent to sex on a finite rock.
An involved verification of the impartial ignorance of the humans, not exclusive to the straights, is the craving of the gays to get "married" under a government "marriage license" in which the government is the third contractual party in the "marriage", granting idiot court judges (lawyers with politically appointed judge jobs) the power to make binding decisions on the two idiots who agreed to include the government in their marriage agreement.
There is a process for more intelligent gays and straights to acquire the full, complete benefits of marriage, without exception, without government involvement or intervention, but this sentence just as well be written in Swahili when presented to the gullible Americans who have been fooled into believing inherently lying lawyers, government dolts, news journalists, and not ask questions of we of the Higher Order, the Mountain Climbers.
Or so I might imagine. The Alaskan Alpine Club's new climbing stuff display room will accept equipment donations resulting from marriage separations among straight, gay and confused couples. We need more carabiners of any condition, to hang stuff. Gates optional.
Doug
AlaskanAlpineClub.org
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the Fet
Knackered climber
A bivy sack in the secret campground
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Jun 25, 2008 - 03:21pm PT
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1 Corinthians 13:13 So faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
Loving your fellow man is more important that faith!
Lots of good stuff in the Bible is ignored by those who wish to reinforce their narrow views.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jun 25, 2008 - 03:26pm PT
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Yeah, but there're a lot of 'rules' in the Bible too that are overlooked in search of 'turn the other cheek' and 'love thy neighbor'.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Jun 25, 2008 - 04:13pm PT
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"Yeah, but there're a lot of 'rules' in the Bible too that are overlooked in search of 'turn the other cheek' and 'love thy neighbor'. "
Yep...Like slaves and such. I'm thinking about getting a couple of Canadians. How about you?
As for your male and female slaves whom you may have-- you may acquire male and female slaves from the pagan nations that are around you. Lev 25:44
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2008 - 04:20pm PT
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Idahoan slaves work better.
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andanother
climber
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Jun 25, 2008 - 05:32pm PT
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Oh man!
I’m trying to get caught up on the last two days of posts. There’s some real gems in here.
That long list of facts that Jody posted is interesting. But, it’s already been noted that those things could be attributed to a number of factors, and not necessarily lesbianism.
And the fact that he had all of that stuff ready to go at the drop of a hat is, well, kind of weird. The guy has done his homework! And he seriously doesn’t like lesbians!
Khanom asked:
”When do we get the New Testament™ 2.0? “
That was tried already by the Mormons. It didn’t go over too well and is the reason why Mormons are about as respected as the Scientologists.
Many years from now, we’re all going to look back on this thread and laugh. Gay marriage is going to similar to inter-racial marriage. It’s just going to take time. The dinosaurs are slowly going extinct.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jun 25, 2008 - 05:34pm PT
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Non, non, non! The dinosaurs aren't going extinct. They're EVOLVING.
Hypothesis: Human nature and behaviour disprove the 'theory' of intelligent design. No intelligent being could have designed humanity, unless hungover at the time.
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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Jun 25, 2008 - 08:02pm PT
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Jody, I said this upthread, but we've had a couple cases in front of the judge that wrote the decision eventually affirmed by the appellate court and then supreme court. He's no lib.
DMT is right, the 14th answers the question. That's why the anit-gay marriage zealots (do they not have anything better to do?) know they need to amend the constitution to prohibit it.
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GDavis
Trad climber
SoCal
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Jun 25, 2008 - 08:04pm PT
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"The definition of marriage from that era is irrelevant. Look up the ....
DMT"
TL:DR
GD
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jun 25, 2008 - 08:10pm PT
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Jody's a bigot and homophobe? That's so ridiculous it's almost funny.
If Jody has a lesbo friend, how can he be a homophobe or a bigot. You people throw these terms around whenever somebody makes a moral stance on something.
Kinda like if you are against illegal immigration, you're a racist.
It's really weak and shows a lack of any legitimate arguement. Or the old, "they're doing the work Americans won't do", yeah, tell that to an underpaid or unemployed construction worker.
I guess that I too am a racist, a bigot, and homophobe. Oh well. Say what you will.
"What a notion! Incredible! You'd think maybe some poeple would have founded, like, a whole country based on that idea. Wow. "
Am I allowed to vote to change the state constitution though?
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GDavis
Trad climber
SoCal
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Jun 25, 2008 - 08:11pm PT
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I thought I was a homophobe once because I made my boyfriend wear a wig : /
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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Jun 25, 2008 - 08:14pm PT
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The religous views of the founders of this country were the basis for the Declaration of Independence, Constitution and foundation of our legal system. Not implementing a state religion is entirely different than forming an atheistic state. But many don't want to acknowledge the foundations of this countries government.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jun 25, 2008 - 08:32pm PT
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It's equally possible to be against gay-marriage and not be homophobic or bigoted.
Are you motophobic because you dislike the use of OHV's on public lands that consume and spew gasoline? Not really. It's a 'rational' fear.
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