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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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I find it enormously curious, humorous and ludicrous that those most vocal in their condemnation of the "WTC/911 conspiracy theorists" are also the same folk who want to say that we never went to the Moon (not you Werner). If we did not go then would not that be a grand conspiracy to cover up the truth? The de-bunkers want to state that too many people would have to be "in the know" for it to work or be kept a secret. But IF the Lunar exploration was a hoax then the number of "in the know' conspirarists would by neccesity have to be greater by a factor of at least a thousand. And yet NO CREDIBLE facts have EVER come out to indicate that a hoax was perpetrated in this case. However regarding WTC/911 there are reams of credible scientific evidence to show that the story line presented, promoted and propagandized by our illustrious leaders (not to mention that paragon of virtue and truth, FUX news) is anything but truth! We made be told to put on our tin foil hats but atleast we have our eyes open. Peoples silence can be bought especially when their lives are on the line. OMERTA!
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monolith
Trad climber
Albany,CA
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Philo, I don't know where you came up with that idea. Most moon landing deniers are also 9/11 deniers. In fact, on Loose Change forum they say don't hand out literature supporting both at the same time, it just make you look like you think everything is a conspiracy.
They both require you to believe in vast government coverups. Believe one and it shows you think they are possible and are more inclined to believe the other.
Please tell us who these vocal critics of CT'ers are who are also moon landing deniers?
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Jay Wood
Trad climber
Fairfax, CA
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Hey,
Did you'all notice how when the overpass collapsed, it crushed the one below it to powder?
No?
Well, did you notice how the columns also crumbled to the ground?
Not either?
But if they had, and repeated another 60 or more times, in 10 seconds....
It would have been just like the twin towers coming down.
I mean, except for the fireproofing and stuff.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Wasn't there a troll living under that bridge that collapsed?
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monolith
Trad climber
Albany,CA
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The steel on the lower deck was warped by heat and will be straightened out using heat. The columns supporting the decks were reinforced concrete. The towers had only steel outer and core columns. The new Freedom Tower will have a concrete core.
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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It seems that some folk here are confusing a bridge with a 110 story building(s). They are most definately KNOTT built the same. Watch the fires burn overnight at the building in Brazil--still stands (oh yeah, they build 'em better down there).
Talk to the nearest friendly Civil Engineer as to how an over pass is usually built. Then notice how they are KNOTT the ones who build 100+' skyscrapers. Huh.
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monolith
Trad climber
Albany,CA
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http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/ci_5828617
"Beginning today, the two contractors will heat precise points on the beams, whose lime-green paint was turned peach or scorched black by the fire, and use hydraulic jacks to bend them back into shape, Haus explained."
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Somebody wrote
""not competent enough to engineer an election or two"
Then HealyJ wrote
This was solely a result of 15 year grass roots campaign by the religious / social right which incrementally assumed power in enough states to throw the election - it was not "engineered" or orchestrated from "above" other than being an open and explicit goal of the GOP and social conservatives to effectively solidify power in the "red" states. "
Come on Joe. Don't you think there are ANY conspiracies besides a few Muslims in Germany?
Just one example regard the election that you defend. THE GOP challenged 3 MILLION voter registrations, with an extreme disproportion of them being minorities. They sent letters to service men in their military bases and when the letters were returned cause the guys were overseas, their ballots were challenged and rejected. Greg Palast has emails of Karl Rove with HUGE lists of voters to challenge. Those voters weren't challenged because there was ANY doubt they had the right to vote, just because they were unlikely to vote GOP and they thought they could "Sting" them out of their vote.
That's enough to grab an election right there without other dirty tricks of which there were plenty. There was absolutely a conspiracy to grab the election by whatever means they could get away with. The only real question is how low did they stoop?
Peace
Karl
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Hootervillian
climber
the Hooterville World-Guardian
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Somebody wrote
""not competent enough to engineer an election or two"
hey, i'm no Somebody.
i'm a sometimes well paid election consultant and electioneer. but now i have found the motherlode, conspiracy theories.
ooohhh, it's a profit deal!
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