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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 29, 2007 - 02:19pm PT
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Exhibit A...
Story with lots of pics:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2007/04/29/BAGVOPHQU46.DTL
A tanker loaded with gasoline overturned early this morning, and the heat of the flames
caused an overhead, 250 yard section of freeway to melt and collapse. The section that
collapsed was knott impacted in any way - it was purely the heat of the fire that did it.
How many times have we heard that the WTC couldn't have collapsed from the fire,
knott-withstanding the fact that many floors were decimated by the impact of the planes
(and I'm guessing that jet fuel might burn just a wee bit hotter than automotive gasoline).
Also, I suspect that that section of roadway was infinitely stronger that any
particular floor of WTC. The freeway section was built after the Loma Prieta
earthquake of '89 where the Cypress Freeway collapsed and killed 42 people.
Nothing flimsy about it!
I'm sure there's a compelling explanation for this.
I'm all ears...
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maculated
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Apr 29, 2007 - 02:26pm PT
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Wowza.
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Apr 29, 2007 - 02:28pm PT
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actually if I'm not mistaken jet fuel does KNOTT burn hotter than unleaded gas.
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L
climber
NoName City and It Don't Look Pretty
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Apr 29, 2007 - 02:29pm PT
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...day just don't make dem clovers like day used to, huh? :-))
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2007 - 02:36pm PT
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I could be wrong about the heat of jet fuel, but since it is kerosine based, I assumed
that it burns much hotter than unleaded gas. I can attest that kerosine burns
much hotter in an MSR XGK stove, with significantly shorter boil times.
Much harder to get going, however...
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2007 - 02:38pm PT
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I correctly assumed that you're a loser, did I knott?
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Apr 29, 2007 - 02:40pm PT
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So the truck crashed and burned on 80/880 blocking it, but the resulting fire habachi-ed the east/west bound 580-80 (Bay bridge access)?
wild shit!
The first thing that popped into my head this morning was the WTC burning concrete scenario.
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maculated
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Apr 29, 2007 - 02:43pm PT
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Wow, double dizamn. That's a very trafficked bridge there. I should tell my dad. He comes out of retirement for projects like this.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 29, 2007 - 02:44pm PT
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Forget all theories the commute is now f'cked.
Quick, buy a helicopter.
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Tahoe climber
Trad climber
a dark-green forester out west
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Apr 29, 2007 - 02:46pm PT
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Or just move to the f#cking valley and cut all ties to society.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Apr 29, 2007 - 03:34pm PT
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How much do you think they'll spend researching how this happened?
More or less than $12 mil?
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 29, 2007 - 03:41pm PT
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Had to add this pic...
And this...
I'm guessing there's knott much left of the truck?
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Crimpergirl
Social climber
Hell on earth wondering what I did to deserve it
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Apr 29, 2007 - 04:00pm PT
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Bizarre. Same thing happened in Houston two days ago. No overpass was lost though.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Apr 29, 2007 - 04:17pm PT
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This is only the second time, in the entire history of the world, that fire has melted steel.
 Rosie O'Dumbell
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Tahoe climber
Trad climber
a dark-green forester out west
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Apr 29, 2007 - 07:24pm PT
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Are we "sure" that a plane didn't hit the bridge?
It's possible that the US government, in a desparate bid to garner agreement with it's foreign policy, melted this bridge.
After all, it can't happen, as proved earlier.
Crowley, are you on this?
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Tom the Cop
Sport climber
Northern Virginia
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Apr 29, 2007 - 08:16pm PT
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Don't they melt steel down to make things - like steel girders - for building skyscrapers? Just wondering.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Apr 29, 2007 - 08:24pm PT
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It's obvious.
The Neo-Cons *pulled* the bridge.
The fire was only a diversion.
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