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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 16, 2012 - 11:12pm PT
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michaeld,
Absolute
AB'SOLUTE,a. [L. absolutus. See Absolve.] 1. Literally,in a general sense,free,independent of any thing extraneous. Hence, 2. Complete in itself; positive; as an absolute declaration. 3. Unconditional,as an absolute promise. 4. Existing independent of any other cause,as God is absolute. 5. Unlimited by extraneous power or control, as an absolute government or prince. 6. Not relative,as absolute space.
Absolve
ABSOLVE',v.t. abzolv',[L. absolvo,from ab and solvo,to loose or release; to absolve,to finish; Heb. to loose or loosen. See Solve.] To set free or release from some obligation,debt or responsibility; or from that which subjects a person to a burden or penalty; as to absolve a person from a promise; to absolve an offender,which amounts to an acquittal and remission of his punishment. Hence, in the civil law,the word was used for acquit; and in the canon law, for forgive,or a sentence of remission. In ordinary language,its sense is to set free or release from an engagement. Formerly,good writers used the word in the sense of finish,accomplish; as to absolve work,in Milton; but in this sense,it See ms to be obsolete.
Solve
SOLVE,v.t. solv. [L. solvo.] 1. Properly,to loosen or separate the parts of any thing; hence,to explain; to resolve; to eclaircise; to unfold; to clear up; as what is obscure or difficult to be understood; as,to solve questions; to solve difficulties or a problem. When God shall solve the dark decrees of fate. 2. To remove; to dissipate; as,to solve doubts. - Noah Webster
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Mar 17, 2012 - 01:16am PT
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Looks like a great project....
But I guess this is the problem with being an atheist....
I'm not too interested in others atheism....
I've got my own and I have no guilt about it.
Here's what I can bank on:
When confronted by a true believer, and if it becomes overly tense, I will test their faith:
'Oh yeah? Your a true believer? You believe everything in the bible? You follow the scriptures?
So, why don't you kill me?
If you believe so deeply and you really really think that god exists and is watching your every move and knows your thoughts... Then you should stone me to death and send me to hell. For your god told you so.
And don't give me that sh#t about man made laws... You're working on a higher level - you have the blessings of your imaginary friend.
Come on, do it!
Wait....
Where you going?
I'm still alive!!!'
(Note to the theists of ST: Please feel free to stone me if you ever see me. I'm sure it would only take a pebble strike to the head to do the trick. Don't worry, if the job is done right I won't be mad. And I won't be ghosting you... those don't exist neither!!!)
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Mar 17, 2012 - 03:20am PT
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TD
You says: "Marlow, thank God for your pain...that's good! Glory to God!"
You're a strange man. There is no pain, only a great calmness. Have you got pain? Make the world a better place to be! At present I think you may be confusing yourself with your God.
Have a nice night and a bright day!
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go-B
climber
Habakkuk 3:19 Sozo
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Mar 17, 2012 - 09:02am PT
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Hook line and sinker!
John 20:31 but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 17, 2012 - 03:58pm PT
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Marlow,
I sensed an uneasiness of mind; a disquietude; a bit of anxiety; possibly a solicitude for the future; hence "pain," in your response.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Mar 17, 2012 - 04:02pm PT
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Ok TD. What does that tell you about your sensing?
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 17, 2012 - 04:54pm PT
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It tells me to, "thank God for your pain...that's good! Glory to God!"
Again, when I see responses such as yours, I see myself at one time. I'm free from that now and I, "thank God" for it, for "He first loved (suffered for) us"!
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Mar 17, 2012 - 04:58pm PT
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The question to ask yourself is, do you believe that at one point a talking snake existed?
Maybe not. But some of us old timers remember a talking horse, Ed by name.
Dig it:
A horse is a horse, of course of course,
and no one can talk to a horse of course,
that is of course, unless the horse,
Is the famous Mister Ed!
Go right to the source and ask the horse.
He'll give you the answer that you'll endorse.
He's always on a steady course.
Talk to Mister Ed.
People yak-it-ti-yak a streak
and waste your time of day,
but Mister Ed will never speak,
unless he has something to say...
A horse is a horse, of course of course,
And this one will talk 'til his voice is hoarse.
You never heard of a talking horse?
Well, listen to this...
I am Mister Ed
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You see. There is a God.
JL
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 17, 2012 - 05:00pm PT
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Thanks for the memories JL...that was good!
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Mar 17, 2012 - 05:00pm PT
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And then there was the Friendly Giant, a delightful program that included Rusty the Rooster and Jerome the Giraffe, both of whom could talk. Not to mention Angie and Fiddle, the Jazz Cats - but they couldn't talk. I saw it all on TV - it must be true. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Friendly_Giant
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 17, 2012 - 05:03pm PT
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I always liked this one as well:
Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale,
A tale of a fateful trip
That started from this tropic port
Aboard this tiny ship.
The mate was a mighty sailing man,
The skipper brave and sure.
Five passengers set sail that day
For a three hour tour, a three hour tour.
The weather started getting rough,
The tiny ship was tossed,
If not for the courage of the fearless crew
The minnow would be lost, the minnow would be lost.
The ship set ground on the shore of this uncharted desert isle
With Gilligan
The Skipper too,
The millionaire and his wife,
The movie star
The professor and Mary Ann,
Here on Gilligans Isle.
So this is the talel of the castways,
They're here for a long, long time,
They'll have to make the best of things,
It's an uphill climb.
The first mate and the Skipper too,
Will do their very best,
To make the others comfortable,
In the tropic island nest.
No phone, no lights no motor cars,
Not a single luxury,
Like Robinson Crusoe,
As primative as can be.
So join us here each week my freinds,
You're sure to get a smile,
From seven stranded castways,
Here on "Gilligan's Isle."
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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 17, 2012 - 05:17pm PT
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Then you should stone me to death and send me to hell. For your god told you so.
Jingy,
Not quite:
"Jesus said unto him (doubting Thomas), Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." Matthew 22:37-40
You see, it's not about you.
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cintune
climber
Midvale School for the Gifted
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Mar 17, 2012 - 09:03pm PT
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No, of course not. Got a great reminder of that today, holy roller church group at the ropes course. Spent twenty minutes coaxing and coaching a kid up the climbing wall, dealing with his fear of heights, telling him to trust the rope, how to use his feet, reminding him to breathe, step-by-step-by-step beta. A small crowd of his friends and family also shouting encouragement, basically repeating everything I told him, but way louder.
Finally, after what seemed forever he got to the top.....
Wait for it......
"PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE JESUS! YOU MADE IT!"
Luckily, they were able to interpret my big grin as some form of endorsement. Heh.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Mar 17, 2012 - 10:14pm PT
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You see, it's not about you.
Funny.... Someone else once told me the opposite:
(however the republitard removed the post immortalizing their personal view on me after the fact:
They either cam to feel shamed by what they had written.... or
They figured out that through time others may be able to clearly determine their weak stance)
Too bad for you... you missed out "Truthfeller"
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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Mar 17, 2012 - 11:35pm PT
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349 Folks have pledged $28K (3/17/12)! Have you pledged?
Not sure why Alex's opinion on this is that important, though he says:
I was approached about appearing in this book and I think it's a great idea. It annoys me that most folks assume atheists are somehow immoral. I think I lead a rich and full life and I'm happy to support this project. If anyone else is so inclined check out the web site, the author is trying to raise funds to make the book a reality.
Mitt Romney would pay the whole $95K if his opinion counted as much.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Mar 18, 2012 - 06:12am PT
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TD
To recapitulate:
You said: “Marlow, thank God for your pain...that's good! Glory to God!”
My answer: You're a strange man. There is no pain, only a great calmness. Have you got pain? … ”
Your respons: “I sensed an uneasiness of mind; a disquietude; a bit of anxiety; possibly a solicitude for the future; hence "pain," in your response.”
My answer: “Ok TD. What does that tell you about your sensing?”
Your respons: It tells me to, "thank God for your pain...that's good! Glory to God!" Again, when I see responses such as yours, I see myself at one time. I'm free from that now and I, "thank God" for it, for "He first loved (suffered for) us"!”
To sum it up:
You read an “uneasiness of mind; a disquietude; a bit of anxiety” and so on, into my post. I tell you that I am calm and I ask you what that tells you about your sensing (that is: when I am calm and you read uneasiness of mind, anxiety and so on into me). And you repeat: “It tells me to, "thank God for your pain...that's good! Glory to God!" and then you add that when you see my respons you see yourself at one time and declare that you are free from that now.
Conclusion:
This is a perfect example of projection TD. You are projecting your own old thoughts and feelings (uneasiness of mind; a disquietude; a bit of anxiety and so on) into me and then declare to be free from them. At the same time - through this projection - you prove that the old way of thinking is still there inside your mind and heart. You strive to be free of it by reading it into other people. That’s strange. Not unusual, and not necessarily dangerous if you are not put into a position of authority.
I will not keep on showing you your mind in operation unless you yourself want to. Do you want me to challenge your thinking?
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 18, 2012 - 10:19am PT
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This is a perfect example of projection TD.
So are you, you don't even know the guy at all.
Mirror mirror on the wall .....
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go-B
climber
Habakkuk 3:19 Sozo
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Mar 18, 2012 - 10:30am PT
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Proverbs 16:20 He who heeds the word wisely will find good,
And whoever trusts in the Lord, happy is he.
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