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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 24, 2008 - 03:40pm PT
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Hey Weschrist,
Hurry up with that latest Bible edition.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Idaho Falls
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Jun 24, 2008 - 04:22pm PT
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"Nice dodge. Care to address the (and others) part of your statement? Or will you deflect once more?"
Deflect what? Address what?
I believe my posts are pretty clear. That is, to individuals not bent on distorting them.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Idaho Falls
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Jun 24, 2008 - 04:27pm PT
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You could try reading the thread Dingus. The "others", I referred to are there.
No, I'm not in an anti gay coalition or speaking for one. I was posting my personal opinion on a very political climbing forum.
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Dick_Lugar
Trad climber
Indiana (the other Mideast)
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Jun 24, 2008 - 05:02pm PT
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Aha Dirtbag...you fail to recognzide that God has a peculiar sense of humor and has the luxury of time on his side in that he is infinite. He'll wait until the "Kalifornicators" are lulled into complacency as they head daily to the beach to eath seafood with not a worry in the world...then, he will UNLEASH THE HOUNDS OF HELL UNTO THE PEOPLE OF LALA LAND TO RIP THEIR FLESH FROM THEIR BONES, WHILE THEY ARE ALIVE MIND YOU, AND LAUGH MANIACALLY FROM HIS MIGHTY THRONE IN HIS KINGDOM OF HEAVEN!!!... at least that's what I envision!
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 24, 2008 - 05:05pm PT
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Oh no Dick...you mean the wolves of Idaho are heading our way?
(shudder!)
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jun 24, 2008 - 05:57pm PT
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Kermit Love, the man who helped create Big Bird, the Snuffleupagus, and other Sesame Street creatures, has died.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/24/arts/24love.html?_r=1&ref=obituaries&oref=slogin
"The cause was congestive heart failure, said Christopher Lyall, Mr. Love’s partner of 50 years."
Was it Big Bird, Elmo or Barney that was supposed to be part of a homosexual conspiracy to subvert American values? I always get confused.
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 24, 2008 - 06:00pm PT
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Bert and Ernie were supposedly lovers promoting a gay lifestyle.
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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Jun 24, 2008 - 08:57pm PT
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As I've pointed out before, doctrine-informed anti-gay folk's most basic assumption is that a genuiine gay person does not, in fact, exist. "God" only made straight folks and a gay is in fact a perverted or disgtorted staight person who doesn't know who he or she really is (straight).
In short, anti-gay arguments are most often forms of wholesale denial, insisting that natural born gay folk are no such thing. Secondary foolishness is hooked up to orientation being not instinctual, but a choice, hence the fear that staight folk who make such a damnable choice can possibly influence others to go fruit as well. Isn't this all bollocks, really.
JL
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
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Jun 24, 2008 - 09:02pm PT
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I heard the new wolves in Idaho are not like the natives in that the reintroduced wolves are much bigger, and have a much wider stance.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jun 24, 2008 - 09:37pm PT
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Largo wrote
"In short, anti-gay arguments are most often forms of wholesale denial, insisting that natural born gay folk are no such thing. Secondary foolishness is hooked up to orientation being not instinctual, but a choice, hence the fear that staight folk who make such a damnable choice can possibly influence others to go fruit as well. Isn't this all bollocks, really. "
They funny thing is, they insist that being Gay is a choice that could become more popular if legitimized, but none of them will admit that it's a choice they feel for themselves or have any trouble resisting.
Everybody who would consider acting Gay if it were just legal to be married raise your hand!
Peace
Karl
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jun 24, 2008 - 09:42pm PT
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"I heard the new wolves in Idaho are not like the natives in that the reintroduced wolves are much bigger, and have a much wider stance."
Yeah, but are they Canadian, and do they hang out at airports in Minnesota?
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jun 24, 2008 - 11:15pm PT
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Agreed Lois
Seems like there are some who feel gays should keep their feelings just bottled up and join the priesthood or something. That hasn't turned out to be so much better for society.
Peace
Karl
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Jun 24, 2008 - 11:35pm PT
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I can't believe this thread made it to over 300 replies.
but I still enjoy knowing the Jody believes in one less god than I do.
:-)
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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Jun 24, 2008 - 11:52pm PT
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"So, what I am getting from coz and others is they only believe in a god that has an "anything goes" policy. What's the point in believing in a god at all then?"
So...any form of God that's believed in should have a closed-minded policy and that's the "one way or the highway"?
There are many different versions, forms, types and variations of a God or higher power. We live in a free society where citizens have the choice to believe in whichever God or Gods (or none for that matter) they like. They can believe in Joseph Smith and golden tablets and magic underwear. They can believe in animal Gods, plant Gods, Hindu Gods/Goddesses, Buddha, Wicken, whatever.
Why is there only a "point" in believing in only ONE particular God (i.e. yours)?
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nita
climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
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Jun 24, 2008 - 11:55pm PT
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Jody, I talked with my neighbor about your link and mental health, by the way.. he's a shrink. First, he pointed out the data was from the Netherlands, and he didn't really know any numbers. What he did tell me..was.. suicides in gay teens has large numbers. Why, because they feel hopeless, they don't want to be gay and their families don't accept them.
edit: please don't blame me for your closed mind.
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Jun 24, 2008 - 11:55pm PT
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Supreme Consciousness
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2008 - 12:01am PT
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"Seems like there are some who feel gays should keep their feelings just bottled up and join the priesthood or something. "
When my friend first came out, he told me he was considering doing that for that reason. I advised him "don't."
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GDavis
Trad climber
SoCal
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Jun 25, 2008 - 12:22am PT
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Just popping in, haven't read the last 200 posts.
Have we solved it yet? Everyone agreed?
No?
Carry on.
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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Jun 25, 2008 - 12:23am PT
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Om Namah Shivaya
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