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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 12, 2015 - 05:50am PT
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It is my opinion that "Christlike" behavior is no more a common attribute of christians than it is for practicioners of other faiths or for non believers.
Christians, however, who don't follow Christ's example open themselves to the charge of hipocrasy....and their name is legion.
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couchmaster
climber
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Mar 12, 2015 - 06:52am PT
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I wasn't going to add to my first non-comment that I didn't post earlier on this thread. But then I decided against it. Better late than never I say.
That's all I have.
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sempervirens
climber
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Mar 13, 2015 - 07:01pm PT
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Style, respect, ethics, strength of character. Who has shown these traits? The WoS FA'ists or the valley locals of the time? Even if they were inexperienced and incompetent the FA'ists owed nothing to the locals. From my outsider's view those who harassed the FA'ists seem pathetic and jealous.
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JC Marin
Trad climber
CA
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Jan 23, 2016 - 06:07pm PT
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What the hell--why not?
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Jan 23, 2016 - 07:01pm PT
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The talk to climb ratio of WOS is certainly unmatched.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 23, 2016 - 11:43pm PT
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This is *exactly* why I boulder.
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fragglerockjoe
Trad climber
space-man from outter space
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Jan 24, 2016 - 03:08pm PT
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Cool video! Like😖
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Highgloss
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Jan 24, 2016 - 05:45pm PT
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Jan 24, 2016 - 07:51pm PT
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Ammon - bhilden is spot on. At the end of the film you mentioned doing the route in a day. Tell us about that "strategy". Troll ;)
BTW... i still take exception to the fact that Gabe has been to a SushiFest and you have not graced us with your presence. Jus' Sayin'....
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 25, 2016 - 08:51am PT
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Plenty...
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Jan 25, 2016 - 11:26am PT
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Where is Ammon during the indoor video segments?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jan 25, 2016 - 11:42am PT
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Any speculation on the identity of the third shltter on the grassy knoll?
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ElCapPirate
Big Wall climber
Ogden, Utah
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Jan 25, 2016 - 12:50pm PT
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Ammon - bhilden is spot on. At the end of the film you mentioned doing the route in a day. Tell us about that "strategy". Troll ;)
BTW... i still take exception to the fact that Gabe has been to a SushiFest and you have not graced us with your presence. Jus' Sayin'....
Ok, I'll bite... my strategy would be the same as any push ascent. Find a competent partner, bring only what we think is necessary an start climbing. I'd love to do it with Grossman and have put the idea out there already. Not only would it be a blast, I'm sure it would be quite the bonding experience.
Nature, I'd love to go to a sushi-fest. When's the next one?
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Jan 25, 2016 - 01:32pm PT
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Serious question here. After all the commotion, conjecture and turmoil over this route, is the consensus that it is the "hardest" route on El Cap? I'm curious. Names like The Reticent, Space, etc... are always rolling off people's tongues in the community when we say "hardest route on El Cap." I know saying things like "toughest route" are often subjective, but we seem to like having a "toughest" anything don't we? Burliest line ever skied.....biggest wave ever ridden, longest sniper shot ever confirmed....it seems to be in our DNA to want to know and name.
Ammon do you think WOS would vie for that title? Or is there still too much murkiness in the water for it to hold such a title? ANd by the way, how's the ankle? We've never met but I've been wondering since that video of you on that ledge surfaced on the interwebs.
Scott
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Jan 25, 2016 - 02:53pm PT
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^^^Dude, you need to brew a pot of coffee and use it as an opportunity to practice the guitar or mandolin or something else with strings (not the drum kit!).
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
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Jan 25, 2016 - 03:02pm PT
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Don't forget the sweet violin.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Jan 25, 2016 - 03:08pm PT
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Just going to leave that "strategy" answer where it is....
Nature, I'd love to go to a sushi-fest. When's the next one?
Indian Creek April 22nd and 23rd. Just razzing you a bit on that but would love to have you out! This one might just be over the top.
And now that I no longer have a full time jerb I might just auger in for a week and a half. See what kind of aerial footage I can acquire. I've an arch I want to fly.
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 25, 2016 - 03:09pm PT
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is the consensus that it is the "hardest" route on El Cap?
Until you do a very hard expanding thin nailing pitch above a potential fall onto a ledge you'll never know how nerve wracking hard aid really is .....
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ElCapPirate
Big Wall climber
Ogden, Utah
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Jan 26, 2016 - 12:53am PT
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Ammon do you think WOS would vie for that title? Or is there still too much murkiness in the water for it to hold such a title? ANd by the way, how's the ankle? We've never met but I've been wondering since that video of you on that ledge surfaced on the interwebs.
Just my opinion, but don't think WOS has any pitches that could be fatal or be seriously maimed... if that's what you mean by "hard". I can think of a few others on the Captain that fit the bill. Ankle is doing great, doc says I'm out of the woods as far as the infection goes, I even have a calf muscle again. Thanks for asking. ;-)
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Jan 26, 2016 - 03:58am PT
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I said it before, and will say it here:
Where are the boys with the bubble-gum soles?
I was up there, on fixed ropes, to redrill rivets, bolts and the first two belay anchors. I couldn't see how someone could link hook placements. There would be a good edge (about 1/8" wide), and then nothing above it for another ten feet. It looked impossible to climb.
But, it certainly looked like a hard, but doable free route. The face undulates enough, there are some hard smearing holds up there. I don't climb face, at all, and certainly not hard 5.11 or soft 5.13, but when I did New Dawn, I was always looking to see how Leo Houlding could have freed that route.
The bottom of WOS seemed lower angle and more featured than the slabby parts of New Dawn.
I really think that someone who can climb hard face should at least go up there for a recon. The protection and anchor bolts, up to the second belay, have been replaced. Bring rivet cinches for some of the mid-pitch anchors.
1500 feet of continuous 5.12R - Tomorrow's free climb, available today.
Last century: Glacier Point Apron, Royal Arches Apron
This century: El Capitan Apron
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