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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Jun 26, 2016 - 11:50am PT
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The GBP, just dropped like a rock. Now is the time to buy anything from England!!
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Jun 26, 2016 - 11:50am PT
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Hey pyro, still waiting for you to explain how the shitgibbon plans on making the US great again, minus the wall that won't be built, the Mexicans that won't be deported, and the Muslims that won't be denied entry.
PS, what's a looser liberal, anyways?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jun 26, 2016 - 11:56am PT
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Tami notes:
That "Great America" still enacted Jim Crow laws, seriously discriminated against women, LGBT persons had zero rights, Asian Americans did not have the right to vote.....
Yeah. Great if you were a white male.
Really? Would having a black woman prez ever get people like you to stop with the negative past we've had? We have gone out of our way to overcome our past.
And we've done an outstanding job, IMO. Funny because you are implying that Americas great days were signified by intolerance and discrimination. That's a very shallow look into our past.
Especially shallow when you ignore the FACT that almost all racial intolerance in this countries' past was SUPPORTED BY LEFT-WING DEMOCRATS WHO WERE CLEARLY RACIST. I'm sure you're aware of this though.
It was conservative Republicans who ended those policies. Maybe we should go back and see how they persevered over racist Dems to Make America Great.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Jun 26, 2016 - 12:17pm PT
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Relax said the nightman, we are programmed to receive.
You can check out anytime you want, but you can never leave..
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 26, 2016 - 12:40pm PT
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There will always be an England, and they will 'ave the last laugh in this
because they always find a way to muddle through. Really, would you rather
buy a Bentley or a Citroen?
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Jun 26, 2016 - 12:43pm PT
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The Asian markets just opened. People had all weekend to look at green eyeshade stuff. Opened down but guessing it plateaus.
Die Welt, calls for Merkel to resign. How possible is that?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jun 26, 2016 - 12:52pm PT
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Bluey -how goes sober living -legit question btw and from a good place.
O.k., I suppose. "sober living", what does that mean? Really. No alcohol, no stimulants, no "drugs", or what?
Now, to the issue at hand; imho the uk more or less had control of their future, yeah they paid some money to brussels, but they had their currency, fiscal policies and immigration controls more or less intact.
More or less? There are no-go zones of immigrant populations. Unless you're 'one of them'. That is out of control IMO.
That said I see breexit and the rise of your buffon trump as more a revolt against poorly negotiated trade deals -i am internationalist by nature as are you by virtue of your schooling, and i have to say that the deals cut with china coming into broad trade frameworks with no clauses around state subsidies and no tariff structuring around meeting equiv usa enviro standards were bullshit then and now we all pay the price. This is far too complex for trump imho as his other noise gets in the way of a central truth -but on that one I would support renegotiating for a bunch of reasons we can agree on -preserving knowledge based jobs and one your crew doesn't seem to give a f*#k about -global warming.
Your clear bias is evident, but that's cool, that's your opinion.
Trade deals again, huh? This is the big one people have against Trump? They keep throwing out his 40% tariff remarks too, which he doesn't intend to enact. Steve Moore is running a lot of his trade policy, and it doesn't involve tariffs. It involves cutting our corporate tax rates to 15%, which is super-awesome for business.
And yes, my crew does not give a f*#k about Global Warming. There are many things that will kill you before the earth does. She's resilient that way.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Outside the Asylum
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Jun 26, 2016 - 01:08pm PT
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The facts that Vladimir Putin, the Russian dictator, is publicly elated with the result of the referendum, and that the Chinese elite is privately pleased, speak for themselves. Divide and conquer.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jun 26, 2016 - 01:19pm PT
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And who are "people like me" Bluering?
Know your history or you are doomed to repeat it.
Apparently you have forgotten your history of racism and intolerance in America, and where it came from. People like you, Tami. are the ones who perpetuate a falsehood. That America has a history of racism because of our slavery past, and what came after. Republicans worked their asses off to get rights for minorities.
You perpetuate an anti-woman, anti-LGBT sentiment. Are we really different than anyone else in this regard?
And don't give me the left-right paradigm in America. Your two parties are the same thing ; hand in hand with the corporatocracy, the military industrial complex and trickle-up globalism.
I'll give it to you all day, sister, when YOU try to pin it on one party. The racism. It was always Democrats that opposed reform on Civil Rights.
Check your history you're so fond of looking back at. You'd make Santayana proud!
Post-Brexit, racism is on the rise in Britain
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-25/racism-on-rise-in-u-k-after-brexit-campaign-labour-warns
This is not racism. It is a country fed up with having immigrants dumped into it's borders without approval of the people who live there. They are not racist! They just want people to assimilate and adopt an English culture, not the culture of the sh#t-hole they left. Is that asking too much?
You can continue to call it racism as all the MSM does, but that is disingenuous. It is an easy way to paint the situation, but it is only half-true.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jun 26, 2016 - 01:26pm PT
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The facts that Vladimir Putin, the Russian dictator, is publicly elated with the result of the referendum, and that the Chinese elite is privately pleased, speak for themselves. Divide and conquer.
You really don't see what 's happening, do you? And where do you see that the Chinese are happy?
Of course Russia is happy. The EU was f*#king them.
EDIT:Wow. Just wow.
Good luck with your future Steve.
Thanks, girlfriend!
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Jun 26, 2016 - 01:36pm PT
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Putin, lol, the drumpfsters love him. Hey, when the shitgibbon becomes a footnote in history, maybe vlad will take up the banner for whatever is left of the Grand Old Pussy party.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jun 26, 2016 - 01:52pm PT
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Look at the big picture, while noting the small picture.
China is going to be a big problem. I'm talking war. They way that China is conducting itself, it has given unusual signals we should not ignore.
Russia is run by an ultra-nationalist Russian patriot. That also makes him a hold-over from our past with Russian communism. If you are incapable of putting aside his past, you're not seeing the whole picture.
The world has changed since the 80's. Islamic terrorism in the Balkans and southern Russia, the advent of the EU trying to strong-arm Russia economically with the help of globalists, all while Russia is trying to re-invent itself in an era of post-Sovietism.
We would be fools to not decide on Russia as an ally in the upcoming war. It will be like the last one in the regard that we'll be holding our noses as we fire in the same direction towards a common enemy.
China is who we should positioning against. Not Russia. The f*#king Brits, God love them, will always have our backs. And us theirs. Kinda funny based on our history.
China. It would be nice to see things end well, but I don't see it with their current leadership stealing waters in the South China Sea, and then militarizing them. Heavily.
EDIT:
Anyhoo -turning to the trade issue; I think we have a point of agreement here; a lot of those trade deals do suck. That said, trump is just not subtle enough to reform them
You don't know that, yet you base a lot on that. I've seen DT blow everybody out of the water with the way he operates. It's not what we're used to, so it's somewhat shocking.
He is much more calculating that you think, I think. And I think many will be surprised in his cunning. Everything he's done with his rhetoric until now was probably a ploy to scare people (China).
Regarding global warming, don't worry blue -my buddy dante has a hot seat reserved with your name on it in the 7th circle of hell; you'll have all the time in the world there to think about the healing powers of the earth...
You don't see how this appears? If I disagree with your Global Warming I'm going to rot in hell as a Christian. I'm going to rot in hell if I don't accept Global Warming.
right....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 26, 2016 - 01:52pm PT
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Anybody read my link to the LA Times Op-ed?
Didn't think so. Keep squabbling!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jun 26, 2016 - 01:59pm PT
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Hold on, Riley....I'll read it. Sheesh.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Jun 26, 2016 - 02:07pm PT
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Too bad the shitgibbon will never be president to show off his cunning.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jun 26, 2016 - 02:09pm PT
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I knew you wouldn't like that, Tami, that's why I said it. Lighten up though, I do consider us friends somewhat and you are a 'girl'.
If you're going to send a sarcastic parting blow to me, I'll always send one back. But it isn't intended to be mean or nasty.
EDIT: Blue is totally unhinged.
I know...
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Jun 26, 2016 - 02:17pm PT
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I've seen DT blow everybody out of the water with the way he operates. It's not what we're used to, so it's somewhat shocking.
that is what is going to make America great!
after watching the celebrity apprentice I'm convinced the Donald is genius.. he would fire the right guy every time.. effing awesome.
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