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Heisenberg
Trad climber
RV, middle of Nowehere
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Dec 13, 2015 - 04:02pm PT
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Kris.
Just keep'n it real. Not negative at all. If someone really wants to lick the booze you need to look at the entire battle. Not just a piece of the situation.
And that book " Million little pieces " Compete sh#t. The fak'n dude made it up!
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Dec 13, 2015 - 04:17pm PT
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As a recovering alcoholic, May I suggest we let the poor guy go through detox and get some sea legs before we start bombarding him with too much?
If Bluering is anything like the dozens of freshly scrubbed drunks I have met, even something as seemingly simple as getting dressed in the morning with matching socks can be difficult to manage.
Man, I remember when I was right around 90 days clean. I went through a short phase where I felt like the air I was breathing was too harsh, and as if my legs couldn't stay coordinated enough to walk. This was just in my imagination, when sitting down and thinking. In reality I breathed and walked fine. But it FELT like I was actually going through some sort of spiritual birth channel. Pretty amazing really.... but yeah, it felt like I was walking on a tightrope and any bit of loss of focus and I would plummet.
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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Dec 13, 2015 - 06:03pm PT
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Bluering, glad to see the support you are getting here, and just want to add a word to say that I know you can succeed. And you are going to have all the support of Creator as well, as you make this new life something beautiful.
You are headed in a good direction, and the finer points will work themselves out as you go, as you build this new way of living for yourself. The past is over, and you have your entire wonderful future ahead of you.
Good for you. We are all wishing you well.
feralfae
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Chugach
Trad climber
Vermont
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Dec 13, 2015 - 06:33pm PT
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Good luck and BIG STRENGTH. One simple day at a time.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2015 - 12:52pm PT
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I'm out!!! And I feel f*#king fantastic!!! 3 days 3 1/3 days without a drink.
I start my after-work outpatient program tomorrow, but the awesome folks at the Mills Health Behavioral Services, where I did my my time, suggested I go to an AA meeting today. Which I'll do. I just was anxious to let my Taco friends know that things are going super-spectacular.
After readting, "The Addictive Mind", while I was there, my eyes were opened to a bunch of stuff that I kinda already knew, but was explained in a more enlightening way with examples to seal the points. Very good read.
One thing that was made very clear, however, was the the de-tox is the relatively easy part. Once you're thrown to wolves (real world), things get more stressful, more tempting, and you are challenged in a very real manner.
Where the rubber hits the road. I think this is why they stress AA meetings so much. Being with similar people.
I'm nervous about it, but I'll go today. I'll shop around and find a group I'm comfortable with.
But things feel good!!!
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 14, 2015 - 12:55pm PT
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Congrats on the first step, blue. That's one of the hardest steps down that long trail. Best of luck to you on your journey.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Dec 14, 2015 - 12:57pm PT
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Good for you Bluey....^^^^^
Thinking of you and your family....lots to be proud of!!
Susan
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dirtbag
climber
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Dec 14, 2015 - 01:18pm PT
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Wonderful, Steve. Thanks for checking in.
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Norton
Social climber
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Dec 14, 2015 - 01:22pm PT
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everyone is pulling for you, Steve
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Dec 14, 2015 - 06:12pm PT
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Good for you, and I sincerely wish you the best.
It's not fun, it's not easy and won't get easier for a while. Don't let your guard down, there will be days when you think you've got it licked, only to have intense cravings pop up days or weeks later.
It sounds silly, but the rubber band bracelet thing helped me when quitting booze (std rubber band around your wrist, start thinking about a drink, snap that band..it's like someone slapping you.) For me, snapping myself with the rubber band nipped any incipient cravings. Sounds dumb, but dumb was better than relapse. I was willing to try most anything by then.
I'm trying to get myself off yet another substance right now (been off the alcohol for almost 6 years), and this is the second time in the last year of going cold turkey off this particular drug.
First time was awful - night sweats, couldn't sleep, nausea, fits of rage anxiety and depression, vivid crazy dreams. Lasted a couple weeks, and was sleeping nornally by about 6 weeks. I am on day 2 right now of a cold turkey, knowing days 3 and 4 will be the worst. Already afflicted with nausea and buttwater, intense mood swings, anxiety, depression. You buy your ticket, you take the ride. Nobody to blame but myself, and I'll get through it.
If I can do it, you can do it. Really looking forward to waking up tonight about 1:45am drenched in sweat while freezing, crying and trying not to go kick holes in my walls from the anger. Week three felt like an ascent out of the depths last time around, so only another 15 days or so of misery for me. Yay!
Wise decision for you and your family, best of luck.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Dec 14, 2015 - 06:20pm PT
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Keep up the good work Steve!
You too ElC
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Dec 14, 2015 - 06:27pm PT
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A lot of people going through recovery are stuck in environments with people who expect the old patterns and throw wrenches (intentional or not) in their efforts to change. Aside from whatever supportive resources you have in your life, and access to AA meetings, you are lucky to have this forum as an additional support layer when sh!t hits the fan. Lots of people here who can support you.
I'm sure that goes for anyone else here who is taking charge of their life and dealing with their issues. For all the funky negative threads and comments, there is a real gem of humanity and positive feedback in this forum. You find what you come looking for.
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Edge
Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
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Dec 14, 2015 - 06:31pm PT
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I'm nervous about it, but I'll go today. I'll shop around and find a group I'm comfortable with.
Sometimes the best support comes from the meetings that make you uncomfortable. Just sayin'.
You're new to the program, try all different types of meetings, but owning a penish and popping in on an all women's group is considered bad form.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Dec 14, 2015 - 06:33pm PT
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Stay strong Blue. This is something you can't give an inch to. Eyes on the prize.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Dec 14, 2015 - 06:42pm PT
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Elcap..Rooting for you to get past the 15 day mark .... beyond & for good.
Good luck.. and take care..
Saludos
Nita...
ps..Congratulations on your 6 years of sobriety .
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 14, 2015 - 07:02pm PT
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That’s wonderful, Steve.
My wife has been with it now for maybe 7-8 days. Going to meetings. She has become a more attractive person. She is a little wobbly.
Keep the faith.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 14, 2015 - 07:38pm PT
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Really good to hear Blu!!
Elcapinyoass, wtf? Good thing you're as strong as they come! Stick with it, you have my intact info
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jstan
climber
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Dec 14, 2015 - 07:49pm PT
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Life is a process wherein one avoids a long series of addictions. In 1958 at band meeting our Pipe Major suggested to the band they "Get John a nice 19 year old." My luck held good once again and they did nothing. I am not good when some assembly is required.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Dec 14, 2015 - 08:34pm PT
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^^^HaHaHahahahahahhahhahhahahhahahahahahahahahhhaa
think i peed my pants
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