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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Mar 30, 2015 - 08:35am PT
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Why is the German pilot yelling in English to his German co-pilot?
Has anyone heard the actual audio of the pilot yelling?
I had also wondered that. From what I can tell, he didn't yell in English, he yelled in German, and English-language media just translated it and didn't bother to mention that they translating (which seems like a journalistic faux pas to me, at least when purporting to report a direct quote, but perhaps it's common).
My basis for concluding this is looking at German language sources, which report the quote in German, not English, and the black box transcript was originally leaked in the German press. I don't speak German and it's possible I'm mistaken, but thought perhaps I may be able to shed some light on this detail.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2015 - 09:04am PT
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Conspiracy theorists usually adopt their fantasy even when the facts prove otherwise.
Is that really true? Or is it easier to write off someone when you automatically dismiss thier ideas rather than bothering to research what they're saying...
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Mar 30, 2015 - 09:26am PT
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Why is the German pilot yelling in English to his German co-pilot?
Maybe it was a promo/training video like the one upstream?
Don't be surprised at the details, nothing is as it seems. Somewhere in the great California desert.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2015 - 09:29am PT
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Where is the "official" story proof? We've already proved that since the flight data/voice recorders are hooked up to the internet it is possible that they were tampered with.
The doctor's notes also could have easily been planted. Then there's the "girlfriend" who has only been quoted in a german tabloid under her first name.
Not saying any of this is true, but either story requires a jump to conclusion in my opinion.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2015 - 09:40am PT
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It's pretty funny. We know the governments and mainstream media have lied to us in the past... But yet to simply suggest that is the case in the present makes someone crazy.
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raymond phule
climber
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Mar 30, 2015 - 09:48am PT
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But do anything at all suggest that they lie about this accident? or do you just mistrust everything?
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2015 - 09:53am PT
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Werner suggested it. So i looked into it.
He's probably just trolling as usual.
I just think it's funny that people who present alternate theories automatically get attacked.
So i rolled with it.
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 30, 2015 - 09:54am PT
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I watched die Hard 2 and saw all the truth.
Ho mannn !!!
You should watch it too, and then know everything!!!
You fools are the ones jumping to conclusions.
Nobody here made any conspiracies predictions.
We're just interested in this event like everyone else.
Go back into your broom closets where it's safe if this thread bothers you ......
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 30, 2015 - 10:06am PT
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That's your behavior.
You think you know what people are doing.
Thus you are the person the article is directed at .....
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Mar 30, 2015 - 10:14am PT
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27 year old intelligent adult proficient in a technical/productive job without a history of violence or psychosis.
Suddenly a switch is flipped and he calmly murders himself and 140 other souls.
Not the MO of any clinically depressed person.
I'd wager the problem is either pharmacological(likley) or some physical abnormality in his brain. The mention of vision problems is interesting. But again, 95% what we can read is likely lies.
The only reason I lean towards the meds is because I've seen those "adverse side affects" firsthand, multiple times. Turned otherwise normal people into raging angry psychotic nutcases rather suddenly. And then back to 100% normal when weened of the poison. In both cases suicide and/or murder would have been almost certain had close friends not intervened.
Still interesting to postulate.
And it's interesting to me that we can actually discuss possible root causes here and not big scary guns because this man chose to kill people with an airplane.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Mar 30, 2015 - 10:24am PT
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^The old Charles Whitman syndrome, eh. Did he leave a note leaving his brain to science by any chance?
For the youngsters out there reading this. The eyes of Texas are upon you.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2015 - 10:28am PT
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People who fall for such theories don’t trust the government or the media.
They aim their scrutiny at the official narrative, not at the alternative explanations.
Who's fallen for anything? I aim my scrutiny at everything.
Edit
Still interesting to postulate.
Exactly.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Mar 30, 2015 - 11:32am PT
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nuff said
DÜSSELDORF, Germany — The co-pilot of the Germanwings jetliner that crashed in the French Alps on Tuesday had been treated for “suicidal tendencies” before receiving his pilot’s license, the office of the public prosecutor in Düsseldorf said Monday.
The co-pilot, Andreas Lubitz, had been treated by psychotherapists “over a long period of time,” the prosecutor’s office said, without providing precise dates. In follow-up visits to doctors since that time, the prosecutor said, “no signs of suicidal tendencies or aggression toward others were documented.”
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2015 - 12:21pm PT
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Oh he had suicidal tendencies? Case closed...
Lol
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crankster
Trad climber
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Mar 30, 2015 - 12:28pm PT
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For a few, these cases are never closed...
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2015 - 12:36pm PT
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I thought he had vision problems? Or wait, wasn't it depression before that?
The German publication Bild previously reported that Lubitz was being treated for vision problems that he feared could jeopardize his career. But Kumpa said there was no documentation of any vision problem.
The German newspaper Die Welt reported that Lubitz was suffering from a "psychosomatic" illness and that investigators found prescription medication in his Düesseldorf apartment. Other German media reported that Lubitz apparently suffered from depression.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/03/30/germanwings-crash-suicidal/70662198/
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brotherbbock
Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
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Mar 30, 2015 - 02:23pm PT
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Usually when you board a plane the pilot, or co-pilot, and others working on the plane will greet you as you enter.
He was truly a sick man if he saw all of those people board that he intended to kill. Women, children, babies, families......so sad.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Mar 30, 2015 - 04:14pm PT
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Another mass killer on psych drugs/meds
Society will have an easier time perhaps eliminating such an eventuality in the highly controlled environment of an airline cockpit.
The next psych med mass killing will likely again be be in a public place like a school or a shopping mall where it is next to impossible.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Mar 30, 2015 - 04:19pm PT
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I 'spose out of fairness you could ask, how many on drugs did not kill anyone.
Similarly you might ask, how many killers are not on drugs.
Or what drugs was Lt. Calley on?
How about Harry Truman?
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