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crankster
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Feb 21, 2015 - 07:27am PT
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Ignorance...the goal of ISIS to lure the U.S. into a quagmire in the Mideast....exemplified here:
Feb 19, 2015 - 12:58pm PT
Well the president seems to be smoking some cheap crack theses days with his battle plan for issis being "social reforms and programs".. Isnt that the very things issis hates? I mean,, do you think they are concerned about social programs other that the training of the next generations of fighters? Is there any one home in the white house that still has a functioning brain?
The Chief
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RFLMAO here on the Taco
Feb 19, 2015 - 01:03pm PT
Ron, Left Winger SOCIALISM.
That is their answer for everything.... Gov't run/sponsored Programs. Don't be surprised if this afternoon after the table gahering with all them coalition members, the White House announces that one of the primary entities they are bringing to the table tomorrow is to offer all them ISIS dudes Labor Union Jobs clearing up the streets of NY, Boston and Detroit of all the record amounts of snow.
The American Far-Right knows no answer but war. Obviously, this isn't what the President said. No matter, the ultra-conservative extremists hear what they want to hear.
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EdwardT
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Retired
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Feb 21, 2015 - 07:48am PT
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U.S. and Iraqi forces are planning to launch an offensive this spring designed to repel Islamic militants from the northern city of Mosul, a military official said.
There goes the surprise.
Maybe they should send ISIS a "Don't Forget The Date" card.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 21, 2015 - 08:28am PT
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There goes the surprise.
Please. As if the big build up to the first gulf war was a big surprise to Saddam. Or the second gulf war. Or D-Day or Okinawa for that matter.
A single building can be attacked with surprise, not a city of 2 million people that requires 30,000 troops to take.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Feb 21, 2015 - 09:14am PT
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Bush nailed it.
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Psilocyborg
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Feb 21, 2015 - 12:05pm PT
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bwahahahaha!
But yeah as much as it pains me to say....Bush's speech writer nailed it
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WBraun
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Feb 21, 2015 - 12:08pm PT
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The whole Bush clan is criminal from the start.
They should all be put in jail.
Stupid Americans put these criminals in leadership of their wonderful country.
How stupid can you ever get ......
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Psilocyborg
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Feb 21, 2015 - 12:12pm PT
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^^agreed. Talk about impersonalists!
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WBraun
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Feb 21, 2015 - 03:17pm PT
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The Islamic State is not only protected by the US and its allies, it is trained and financed by US-NATO, with the support of Israel and Washington’s Persian Gulf allies.
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crankster
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Feb 21, 2015 - 03:27pm PT
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Stewart is spot on. GW started the mess, he doesn't get credit for anything after that. Like an arsonist calling in a fire.
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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Feb 21, 2015 - 03:39pm PT
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Ron: If you actually knew the history, Al Queda in Iraq wasn't a threat until the U.S. destroyed the place - Hussein, for all of his faults was no friend of Al Queda.
The only real reason that your appallingly corrupt weasel of a "President" wanted to stay in Iraq was because he and his administration were making a bundle out of that war. The invasion of Iraq was nothing more than a sleazy, cynical cash grab and a disgrace to the honour of the United States.
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thebravecowboy
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my pals call me Shackleton
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Feb 21, 2015 - 03:45pm PT
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calling a spade a spade does not make W a prescient man, Ron.
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Stewart
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Courtenay, B.C.
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Feb 21, 2015 - 05:18pm PT
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Ron: No, it was the Bush family's needless destruction of Iraq that started this whole nightmare - everything that followed was as a result of this cynical cash grab. Dubya, his father and their buddies are a disgrace not only to the U.S., but to the entire human species.
As for your comment about U.S. occupations from WW II & onwards still being in place - what are you actually trying to say about that? Would the U.S. be grateful to have foreign troops permanently based there for ANY reason?
Cragman: And the U.S. getting rid of that corrupt weasel Dubya Bush and his buddies was an even better thing. The U.S. has more WMDs than the rest of the planet, and Rumsfeld was talking about using nukes on the battlefield in case you have forgotten.
Do something useful with your life, Cragman - learn something about common decency and critical thought - It might help you become a become a better human being and, by the way, I certainly don't need you to tell me that ISIS is extremely bad news.
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WBraun
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Feb 21, 2015 - 05:28pm PT
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It shows that GW actually didn't listen to the truth....respected the criminals.....and knew how to lie and cover it all up.
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Feb 21, 2015 - 06:12pm PT
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I debated only the fact that it wasn't BUsh's plan to withdraw from Iraq that soon.
Wasnt it Bush that ordered and signed a bill saying we would pull out in 2010, and Obama followed through with?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Feb 21, 2015 - 06:13pm PT
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Bush is a war criminal in Spain and was going to be arrested if he set foot inside Spains borders...he was also responsible for the death of 3,000 innocent Americans because he was too arrogant to heed warnings about Saudis crashing airliners into American buildings...The war President who went awol in the National Guard...Oh , and should we mention the surplus he squandered...?
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Norton
Social climber
quitcherbellyachin
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Feb 21, 2015 - 06:23pm PT
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Wasn't it Bush that ordered and signed a bill saying we would pull out in 2010, and Obama followed through with?
that is correct
President Bush signed the Withdrawal Agreement with the Iraqi President which set the time table for the removal of all US combat troops
of course this is easy to look up to verify, anyone can do a search in seconds
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Had no problem supplying Saddam Hussein with chemicals to manufacture WMDs. 
Let us know!