Bolt chopping at Sugarloaf

"Vitality your profile listing says mountain climber yet you pay know respect to those who paved the road?? Alex Lowe was simply the best but would decline to acknowledge anytime anyone said so and has bigger nuts than you!Reinhold Messner is the godfather of Alpinism and his nuts are probably bigger than two of your heads duct taped together. Goes to prove my point about hot shot know it all uneducated climbers. And for the rest of you...anyone who would favor placing bolts and are so strongly against chopping bolts/bolt ladders... I agree that the property should be returned but as far as chopping bolts how about the Compressor route getting chopped? The ethics dont apply to one area they apply to everywhere... The compressor route on Cerro Torre should have been chopped along time ago and now that it finally was chopped a few years back the Alpinists responsible were/are under heavy fire. There is an "Over" usage of bolts in the Climbing community and any Joe off the street can reach the top of a route by unfair means my arguement is not against bolts but in fact against this fast growing militia of so called "Elitist Sport Climbers" With no ethics concerning the environment or other climbers who think that bolts should be everywhere....El Cap, Moonlight Buttress, Half Dome The Apron where does it end?? Before you know it every bolt placing unable to place pro average joe as#@&%e will have desecrated thousands of the worlds most classic or iconic climbs.Thinking that we own the stone is wrong... Being a part of the stone and climbing by fair means and having fun is right. But ill stick to my guns when I say that placing bolts has its place, chopping bolts is a right reserved by those who climb in clean style instead of hangdogging from a bunch of bolts.Because like it or not sport climbers your style destroys more stone than a thousand cam placements simple as that so limiting bolt usage and chopping routes that have been wrongly put up. Nuff said! "

Because like it or not sport climbers your style destroys more stone than a thousand cam placements simple as that so limiting bolt usage and chopping routes that have been wrongly put up. Nuff said! "

Why O Rox climbers?

Idaho Wolves...

Bolts ... make some routes/ crags appear cleaner.

“Young people get the foolish idea that what is new for them must be new for everybody else too. No matter how unconventional they get, they're just repeating what others before them have done.” ~ Yukio Mishima

Expansion bolts are taken for granted nowadays; they are kept to hand just in case some difficulty cannot be overcome by ordinary methods. Today's climber doesn't want to cut himself off from the possibility of retreat: he carries his courage in his rucksack, in the form of bolts and equipment.

Rock faces are no longer overcome by climbing skill, but are humbled, pitch by pitch, by methodical manual labor; what isn't done today will be done tomorrow. Free-climbing routes are dangerous, so the are protected by pegs. Ambitions are no longer built on skill, but on equipment and the length of time available. The decisive factor isn't courage, but technique; an ascent may take days and days, and the pegs and bolts counted in the hundreds.

Retreat has become dishonorable, because everyone knows now that a combination of bolts and singlemindedness will get you up anything, even the most repulsive-looking direttissima.