Almost inevitable ... over Vernal Falls ... again.

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Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jul 21, 2011 - 06:47pm PT
Been done at Niagra.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Jul 21, 2011 - 06:50pm PT
A famous aerialist (Blondin?) had a tightwire across Niagara in the late 19th century, and crossed it several times. It seems an unlikely place for a slackline - it's an awfully long way.

I just hope that no one took a videorecording of the accident, or if someone did, that it's only given to YOSAR, law enforcement, and the families, and not published on the internet or sold to the news media.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Jul 21, 2011 - 07:42pm PT
I'm glad most of the comments on this thread have turned more sympathetic. If the temptation to make pithy comments is too much, check out a picture of the one of the victim's parents at her service: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/07/yosemite-hikers-waterfall-vernal-river.html

Very, very sad.
rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Jul 21, 2011 - 07:51pm PT
Signs and rails obviously hold no impact

The death toll might be way higher without the signs. I can't imagine them having no impact.

In this particular case, maybe more people would have jumped in to attempt a rescue had the rails and signs not been there. Who the heck knows how bad things could get without the rails and signs.

Dave
WBraun

climber
Jul 21, 2011 - 07:53pm PT
LOL

These guys have totally lost it now. The obsession has grown.

They're all fantasizing going over Niagara falls in a barrel now .....
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Jul 21, 2011 - 07:54pm PT
You are right about it being a tightwire, and it was done more than once, I believe.
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Jul 21, 2011 - 09:50pm PT
Here is a much different view of the falls:

WBraun

climber
Jul 21, 2011 - 11:19pm PT
And here's the real deal ....

thetennisguy

Mountain climber
Yuba City, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 21, 2011 - 11:22pm PT
Typically it takes a few days for the bodies to surface, so perhaps they will be recovered soon. Condolences to the families. The water up there and the pools in particular are so alluring that many folks think it's a worth risk taking, I suppose. It's like a moth to the flame. There's probably hundreds of folks that do this same thing each year and get away with it. We only hear about the one that don't make it.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jul 21, 2011 - 11:24pm PT
Great pic Werner. Is that part of the recovery effort?
WBraun

climber
Jul 21, 2011 - 11:25pm PT
From a few years ago.
Tobia

Social climber
GA
Jul 21, 2011 - 11:41pm PT
Leah Oliver Good, mentioned above in the quoted list of victims of Vernal Falls, had a son that worked in the YPCC warehouse that I worked with.

I had forgotten his mom died in that manner. The realization that someone you have familiarity with, however remotely, makes this more horrible.
Mr_T

Trad climber
Northern California
Jul 22, 2011 - 12:08am PT
Was hiking down later Tuesday from above Nevada Falls, and saw some idiot playing in the river about 25 yards above the Nevada drop. Found out later that every once in a while one of these moths does get sucked over. Glad it wasn't while I was earlier in the day and not the falls I was walking past...
dugillian

Trad climber
Vancouver
Jul 22, 2011 - 01:19am PT
and the Christians still don't believe in Natural Selection.

Nor do they believe in Darwinism but even in today's Nanny society it still occurs.
dugillian

Trad climber
Vancouver
Jul 22, 2011 - 01:49am PT
Hmmm...If only the Catholics allowed women to make choices about their own bodies and started getting rid of ALL of their pedophile priests instead of just shuffling them around would they truly have two moral feet to stand upon.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Jul 22, 2011 - 02:12am PT
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002654477045
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jul 22, 2011 - 02:15am PT
nope
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Jul 22, 2011 - 02:55am PT
shortcut between Grizzly and Broderick?
Yes - you start right from the top of Vernal, but the other side. A dry gulch leads up, becomes more wooded, and a few easy ledge traverses is all you deal with. Not even manzanita bushes as I recall. I tried this approach by looking at the old coffee-table book Above Yosemite, featuring NASA photos and photos from airplanes (back before Gooogle earth).
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Jul 22, 2011 - 03:39am PT
some brothers wrote


I respectfully disagree, Karl.

As climbers, we have FULL knowledge of the dangers inherent in this natural world, and that knowledge gives us FULL right to 'preach' or share what we know with others in the environment.

As climbers, we do everything we can to mitigate the danger, with gear, harnesses, rope, etc. These things are the equivalant of that fence at the top of the falls; in place to avoid the hazards.

I liken climbing over that railing to climbers walking past Jesse's signs in the Valley at the site of active rock fall areas, and willfully roping up.


WBraun

climber

Jul 20, 2011 - 09:22am PT
I'm in the rescue business.

I have every right to preach when you're out of line doing something stupid .....

Still don't agree. If this was thread about Bachar decking, or somebody eating it soloing some sick himalayan face, the "Stupid" tone would be far more toned down.

The fact that we know we're doing ridiculously dangerous things doesn't make it more wise than some tourist who makes a bad call, thinking it's not so dangerous.

We have the safety tools and don't always use them. I walk right by the "Safety" signs every year to descent tenaya canyon and I'd walk past more signs around Glacier Point and the falls if it didn't set a bad example for others.

Peace

Karl
Melissa

Gym climber
berkeley, ca
Jul 22, 2011 - 09:47am PT
SFgate writer reminds us (with the front page headline "Go Off Trail, Go Unpunished") that the rangers can arrest you for disorderly conduct if you put yourself or others at risk.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/07/22/BAR61KDIGH.DTL&tsp=1

I'm glad that the park response had a mellower tone than hers.
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