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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 30, 2018 - 08:10pm PT
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How many people were not gunned down or harmed in any way on that day while worshipping? Not including of course worshipping false idols.
The hate mongerers are not doing that well in frothing up the masses, YET
You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2018 - 08:25pm PT
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Not many fems left here on The Taco and sharing ideas with some testosterone's here can be a trip at times.
However, it has been important throughout the ages to be able to speak and share ideas, though admittedly the sharing of ideas at times has not been pretty. (Like here and now...jezz, can't you debate with grace?) But thank God the advancement of ideas do seem to eventually make progress. I hail Dred Scott for his persistence and am glad he had 9 months of freedom before he died.
I remain firm in the belief that if we could put aside our prejudices and be willing to listen to parties from diverse groups and find common ground with give and take, we could reach a place that would allow us as individuals, a country and a world to move forward.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Oct 30, 2018 - 08:31pm PT
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I get it now.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Oct 30, 2018 - 08:33pm PT
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Edward T... The T stands Testosterone..
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 30, 2018 - 08:33pm PT
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Do the math. Moron
There is no comparability in the instances you bring up!
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Oct 30, 2018 - 09:06pm PT
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Of course, whatever you think about the current happenings in America, if you want change, please vote.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Oct 31, 2018 - 04:18am PT
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I remain firm in the belief that if we could put aside our prejudices and be willing to listen to parties from diverse groups and find common ground with give and take, we could reach a place that would allow us as individuals, a country and a world to move forward. Excellent point!!
I listened carefully. And watched the actions of Trump and his people.
That's how I know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that we are dealing with fanatical white supremacists, racists, fascists, Nazis, ignorant fools, and even the anti Christ himself.
Zero tolerance for Trump and his people in my country.
Zero. None. Nada.
No compromise.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Oct 31, 2018 - 06:07am PT
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Excellent point!!
I listened carefully. And watched the actions of Trump and his people.
That's how I know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that we are dealing with fanatical white supremacists, racists, fascists, Nazis, ignorant fools, and even the anti Christ himself.
Zero tolerance for Trump and his people in my country.
Zero. None. Nada.
No compromise.
^The crux of the problem.^
Trump won the white vote by just about every metric. Men, women, college graduates, income over 50K. So, what you're saying is most white Americans are scum. Most educated, productive Americans are scum.
Zero tolerance?
Sad.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Oct 31, 2018 - 06:20am PT
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Conveniently left out,of every metric.
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 31, 2018 - 06:55am PT
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President trump is now talking about ending birthright citizenship.
Why?
To appeal to the cruelty and bigotry of his base.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Oct 31, 2018 - 07:02am PT
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President trump is now talking about ending birthright citizenship.
Why?
To appeal to the cruelty and bigotry of his base.
Which other industrialized nations have unconditional birthright citizenship for persons born in the country?
AntiChrist
Gym climber
Urth
Oct 31, 2018 - 06:55am PT
Jesus EdT, you desperately need to move past the grade school math and easy talking points your handlers spoon feed you and start learning how read numbers all by your big self.
The numbers aren't complicated, like your convoluted thinking.
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 31, 2018 - 07:58am PT
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Nope .... it was election rigging and it wasn't Russia.
Why do think there is such a massive smear campaign against Putin so the real culprits can hide under.
Check out who really runs the election machines.
You won't do it since you're too lazy, too st00pid and it WILL take a lot of time to dig thru ....
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Oct 31, 2018 - 08:14am PT
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Which other industrialized nations have unconditional birthright citizenship for persons born in the country?
Totally irrelevant. We have a different history.
Which other industrialized nations have a Second Amendment?
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Oct 31, 2018 - 08:18am PT
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Canada is a birthright country.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Oct 31, 2018 - 08:37am PT
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Maybe Trump's endgame is to have this issue decided by The Supreme Court of The United States.
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Oct 31, 2018 - 09:16am PT
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Xcon: . . . the REAL problem the masses who keep walking away from that responsibility of theirs...
Show me where I signed up for assuming responsibility for others. You can’t be a liberal. Liberals believe in freedom first and foremost, I was told. Assuming and taking (insinuating?) responsibility for others seems more a conservative principle to me.
Ksolem,
(Have you been watching “Mr. In-Between?”)
I taught in business schools for too many years, and leadership (a vague idea) was always a part of it. For me in my discipline, there are many moving parts (7S’s: style, structure, staff, strategy, systems, skills, shared values).
I admit that leadership can be a powerful influence on organizational life, but I have rarely seen any leader significantly move an organization by him or herself alone. Culture (also a vague idea) is *the* most influential variable and trumps strategy each and every time. Want to experience the full power of culture? Try going against a culture’s values and beliefs. You will trigger the corporate immune system, and it will get you.
I appreciate all of the focus on Mr. Trump, but I can’t see how any one person in any organization can be the cause of the most important effects. The most effective leaders have been those whose skills are right for the organization and the times—and those times change in time. Organizations appear to be in causal feedback loops with their environments.
Sure, hate Trump. You might be missing a bigger picture, imo.
I think Lynne’s efforts here are to be commended. (Wasn’t it Churchill that said, 'Meeting jaw to jaw is better than war?’)
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Oct 31, 2018 - 09:35am PT
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Show me where I signed up for assuming responsibility for others.
It never ceases to amaze me how so many right-wing "patriots" are incredibly ignorant of the history of the country that they profess to love and cherish so deeply.
I could try to offer some insight to the ignoramus who made this statement, and direct him to the writings of people like Thomas Jefferson, and the founding principles of our government, but in my experience these right-wingers are too dumb to be educated, or they adamantly cover their eyes and ears when facts are presented to them.
But I'll make a standing offer to any right-wing ignoramus: if you really want to learn about the country you understand so little about, then send me a message and I will gladly have an adult conversation with you.
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ExfifteenExfifteen
climber
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Oct 31, 2018 - 11:07am PT
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SLR:
It never ceases to amaze me how so many right-wing "patriots" are incredibly ignorant of the history of the country that they profess to love and cherish so deeply.
I could try to offer some insight to the ignoramus who made this statement, and direct him to the writings of people like Thomas Jefferson, and the founding principles of our government, but in my experience these right-wingers are too dumb to be educated, or they adamantly cover their eyes and ears when facts are presented to them.
But I'll make a standing offer to any right-wing ignoramus: if you really want to learn about the country you understand so little about, then send me a message and I will gladly have an adult conversation with you.
Whew, that prolly made you feel real good typing that out ledge rat. A toast to your musings...
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