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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Feb 25, 2017 - 10:13am PT
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A New Presidential Mandate
or
The Ugliest American
I love hurling insults
That makes me feel good
I like proving that I'm right
Like daddy said I should
I love feeling superior
Because I believe I am
In the history of the world I'll be
The ugliest American
I shall vilify the media
And freedom of the press
Because they disagree with truth
What a colossal mess
And ban the Muslims outright
Because they pose a threat
And all who would oppose me
You'll be my target yet
I'll build a wall to keep you out
To protect those of my race
And the army shall deport you
And punch you in the face
Your parents and your children
Will be the next to go
Then I'll be going down the list
Of protesters you know
If they don't like my pipeline
They'll be lying on the ground
When tanks roll o'er their backsides
My mandate will be sound
To make our country great again
Some folks will have to lose
Like Hitler's racial cleansing of
All those filthy Jews
And you won't have to worry
If you can hold a job
But if you're old or infirm
I'm not a heartless snob
Your family can support you
And care for you as well
Because they'll get some benefits
Employed by my hotels
And if you feel objectified
Or disgust and outright fear
You deserve all my betrayal
If you're lesbian, bi, tranny, or queer
I don't mind if your offended
By my patriarchal patronizing
It's the least that I can do for you
You'll soon be be realizing
I love hurling insults
That makes me feel good
I like proving that I'm right
Like daddy said I should
I love feeling superior
Because I believe I am
In the history of the world I'll be
The ugliest American
-Big Daddy
02/25/2017
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Feb 25, 2017 - 10:32am PT
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I have been waking up at night lately
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Feb 25, 2017 - 10:36am PT
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you read a lot of news pyro?
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Feb 25, 2017 - 10:45am PT
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lots of news all over the T.V.
too bad media is just another talk show
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Feb 25, 2017 - 11:02am PT
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do you read, pyro?
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jaaan
Trad climber
Chamonix, France
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Feb 25, 2017 - 11:39am PT
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OK, this is a serious question. Not knowing too much about the way the US political system works, (but frightened to death about what the idiot might do next) what is needed to trigger - if that's the right word - an impeachment?
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Feb 25, 2017 - 11:53am PT
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OK, one final comment. Part of my decision not to try to contribute to such threads any longer is the realization that many of the trumpites (madbolter, TGT2, pyro) were not misled by the media to arrive at their conclusions. That had those already, and Trump came by spouting their own views back at them. Hitler didn't create nazism out of nowhere. He tapped into a sentiment that already believed what they wanted to believe. When I see a Trump supporter respond to a criticism of Trump by saying "you still don't understand why he won", that only serves to ratify my belief even further. Sure, some folks did buy his snake oil routine, but others, like madbolter, were already there. While he'll happily listen to folks like Alex Jones, who's hateful propaganda will further cements his views, he'll never respond to responsible, well sourced journalism. I fear a good part of our nation has crossed a divide it will never return from.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Feb 25, 2017 - 12:01pm PT
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...many of the trumpites (madbolter, TGT2, pyro) were not misled by the media to arrive at their conclusions. They had those already, and Trump came by spouting their own views back at them.... (Trump) tapped into a sentiment that already believed what they wanted to believe...
This is what happened when I asked my dog if he wanted to go for a walk:
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perswig
climber
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Feb 25, 2017 - 01:04pm PT
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Just weighing in to say thanks to NutAgain! for continuing to take on the frustration of Sisyphus, always with thoughtfulness and an open mind. Regardless of sides, these things seem in increasing demand and in limited supply (and I'm as guilty as the next guy).
Dale
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jaaan
Trad climber
Chamonix, France
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Feb 25, 2017 - 01:55pm PT
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it starts in the house of representatives.
To bring articles of impeachment against a president requires a majority vote in the House of Representatives. When the case is tried by the Senate, a vote of at least 2/3 of those present is required to convict and remove the president from office.
So how likely would it be that anyone would be brave enough to initiate proceedings?
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Feb 25, 2017 - 01:56pm PT
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They would have to have a pretty good idea that there was a consensus to do it.
Since house is controlled by Repubs, it would take an astonishing act with terrible consequence for impeachment to start.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Feb 25, 2017 - 02:21pm PT
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MB1=constitutional cherry picker.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Feb 25, 2017 - 02:35pm PT
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They would have to have a pretty good idea that there was a consensus to do it.
Since house is controlled by Repubs, it would take an astonishing act with terrible consequence for impeachment to start.
Unfortunately, at this point in time, I don't see that trump has committed a treasonous act, or maybe we don't know about it.
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Norton
Social climber
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Feb 25, 2017 - 03:20pm PT
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For TGT
WASHINGTON ― As a team of elite U.S. commandos found themselves under unexpectedly heavy fire in a remote Yemeni village last month, eight time zones away, their commander in chief was not in the Situation Room.
It’s unclear what he, personally, was doing. But his Twitter account was busy promoting an upcoming appearance on the Christian Broadcasting Network.
“I will be interviewed by @TheBrodyFile on @CBNNews tonight at 11pm. Enjoy!” read a tweet from President Donald Trump’s personal account on Saturday, Jan. 28.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Feb 25, 2017 - 05:07pm PT
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The snowflake in chief won't attend the White House Correspondents Dinner. His ego would melt at the first joke aimed at him.
Another path to impeachment might be if the repubs think Trump can't get reelected. That way they get their boy Pence in. Can an impeached and convicted prez run again?
Edit: The Senate can decide if he can run again.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 25, 2017 - 05:19pm PT
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What boggles the mind is that any of these people think that suppressing the media is going to lead to greater personal freedom, a better economy, or a Great America.
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Feb 25, 2017 - 09:06pm PT
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I want to share my own experience.
I witnessed creation of #fakenews by the liberal journalist working for the liberal Globe and Mail newspaper. He added one word to a neutral report of international organization when tweeting about it thus completely changing its meaning.
I was not sure whether he did it on purpose or just made an error.
I pointed to this error on Twitter and sent an e-mail to an edditor of this newspaper.
Neither this journalist nor edditor responded to me, corrected this #fakenews or apologized.
I got a perception that they were OK with creation of #fakenews.
It seems to me that such liberal treatment of news is a new norm for a liberal Mainstream Media.
I am not sure I understand why NutAgain! is trying to defend it.
Limiting access to a president would only decrease amount of created #fakenews.
I do not see anything wrong with this.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Feb 25, 2017 - 09:13pm PT
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'fake news' is just another fringe-right meme of distraction and part of a deliberate pre-emptive assault on the fourth estate because trumpco knows they can't get away with the majority of their agenda if there is appropriate media oversight. It's a particularly ironic meme for the right to wield given rightwing radio jocks and fox news have been cranking out bullshit and lies under the loose guise of 'journalism' and 'news' for the last two decades.
Only a rube would buy into such bullsh#t.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Feb 25, 2017 - 10:11pm PT
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I want to share my own experience.
I witnessed creation of #fakenews by the liberal journalist working for the liberal Globe and Mail newspaper. He added one word to a neutral report of international organization when tweeting about it thus completely changing its meaning.
I was not sure whether he did it on purpose or just made an error.
I pointed to this error on Twitter and sent an e-mail to an edditor of this newspaper.
Neither this journalist nor edditor responded to me, corrected this #fakenews or apologized.
I got a perception that they were OK with creation of #fakenews.
It seems to me that such liberal treatment of news is a new norm for a liberal Mainstream Media.
I am not sure I understand why NutAgain! is trying to defend it.
Limiting access to a president would only decrease amount of created #fakenews.
I do not see anything wrong with this.
Yury, you post from the position of a serf, bowing to the wisdom of a central gov't whose pronouncements are not subject to scrutiny. You accept central authority as fundamentally correct and unquestionable.
Americans march to a different drummer, full of skepticism for things pronounced by the gov't.
You advocate for a system in which the gov't is not able to be questioned on the statement it makes, from Sweden to crowd size. Your position appears to be that you don't care what the actual truth is, only that things be said and one forcefully.
We do things here different.
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