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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Feb 15, 2016 - 03:56pm PT
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Right, on the republican side, their main interest is the same thing :-) But the way to get to it, from either side, is to navigate through all this shitty politics, as usual.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Feb 15, 2016 - 04:03pm PT
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I actually liked Scalia, in spite of the fact that I didn't agree with him on most matters. He was witty. He was articulate and clear about where he stood.
I don't like any of the Republican candidates. I don't like anything I hear from this moronic Republican party. I'd be embarrassed to be a Republican. Thank God but for the grace of God that could be me (Einstein's God, btw).
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Feb 15, 2016 - 04:24pm PT
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TradEddie,I like the way you think!
Cheers.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Feb 15, 2016 - 04:32pm PT
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How about if he nominates a good legal mind, rather than a political hack of either persuasion?
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Feb 15, 2016 - 04:55pm PT
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For me, I think that the person they nominate will be a good legal mind and not a political hack whether it's a republican president or a democratic president doing the nominating. The question for me is more whether the politicians in the White House are going to use the nomination process, and the politicians in the senate are going to use the confirmation process, for political gain, and I think the answer is yes on both sides (regardless of how much we want to confirm "us" as good and condemn "them" as bad).
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Feb 15, 2016 - 05:08pm PT
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How about if he nominates a good legal mind, rather than a political hack of either persuasion?
I think it is the lame duck that has the best chance to nominate a brilliant mind. Pretty much no downside.
But Obama has, so far, appointed stellar legal minds.
Like Elena Kagan..........first choice of Scalia
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Feb 15, 2016 - 05:56pm PT
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I hate to say it, but good riddance. I really enjoyed Con Law during law school but, even as a second year law student, found his opinions to be intellectually dishonest. His other great failing (apart from his arrogance) was his failure to recognize his own conflict of interest and willingness to raise questions of his and the Court's impartiality by accepting gifts, such as hunting trips, from parties who had matters before the court.
John Duffield's comments about Obama's overly liberal appointments is just, let me be polite and say, misinformed. Democrats nominations are generally far more centrist than those selected by Rebuplicans, some of whom come to the bench with well known, rigid approaches. Alito, whose nickname before being appointed was "Scalito", is a notable example. William Rehnquist was also apponted having written extensively of his disdain for 4th Amendment guarantees afforded to criminal defendants.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Feb 15, 2016 - 06:25pm PT
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Obama can make the appointment while the Senate is adjourned.
As long as Obama's choice is reasonable, and not some super-far left fanatic, confirmation during the next Senate session would seem assured.
If the GOP controls the Senate, they would look like fools trying to block a reasonable justice, already on the Bench, who had been serving effectively.
If the GOP loses control of the Senate, then there is no confirmation issue at all. The confirmation would be virtually assured.
It is entirely possible that the Republicans will keep the Senate in continuous session, and never adjourn.
They have to adjourn for at least four days in order for Obama to make a recess appointment.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Feb 15, 2016 - 06:41pm PT
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If the GOP controls the Senate, they would look like fools trying to block a reasonable justice, already on the Bench, who had been serving effectively.
And fools they are. I see little chance a nominee will be confirmed in an election year, despite history.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Feb 15, 2016 - 07:16pm PT
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Look a ledge turd.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Feb 15, 2016 - 07:20pm PT
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It really is too bad that Wolman Jack has passed on.
Wolfman Jack for Supreme Court Justice.
He was black, voted repub and watched more porn than Thomas and Angela Davis combined.
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Denver CO
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Feb 15, 2016 - 07:56pm PT
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Justice Rehnquist - now there was a pathetic sight, lying on his deathbed in the hospital, refusing to give up his seat on the court until the bitter end. The office had to be pried from his cold, dead, fingers. He was also a hypocrite to the core. His monotone voice was the product of a serious drug addiction, while the Rehnquist Court's drug-war rulings were surpassed only by some of the extremes of the war on terrorism. The only ideologues on the court now are really Alito and Thomas. If another moderate like Roberts is added, it would be the best Supreme Court in 30 years.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 15, 2016 - 08:17pm PT
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Feb 15, 2016 - 09:16pm PT
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The President would be foolish to attempt a "recess appointment", particularly since he had the Supreme Court reject his most recent attempt to do so, rejected 9-0!
This would feed into the "he keeps acting unconstitutional!" narrative, and embolden the Repug base.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Feb 15, 2016 - 09:18pm PT
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It will be interesting to see if MacConnel's(sp?) proclaimation that he will not allow a vote, will backfire, like Kevin McCarthy did as he was about to be made Speaker.
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2016 - 09:33pm PT
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Had they simply held hearings, then rejected his nominees, they might have gotten away with it. But outside the loony rabid right wing base, openly stating that they won't even consider any nominee will backfire. They overreached big time.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Feb 16, 2016 - 12:01am PT
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Saw an interesting profile of Scalia on Charlie Rose tonight.
Besides the remembrances of several colleagues, there were two interviews with Scalia (2008, 2012) with insights into his Originalist view vs. the 'Living Constitution' view. Worth a watch.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Feb 16, 2016 - 01:02am PT
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Obama promised McConnell, Grassley, et al that he wouldn't appoint and seat anyone to the Supreme Court while the Senate was adjourned.
Obama promises no recess appointment to Supreme Court while the Senate is adjourned
I was kinda hoping Obama would use the recess appointment. If McConnell becomes too much of an irritantion, Obama might do it, anyway. There are about nine Senate recesses scheduled this year.
Eisenhower, a Republican, used a recess to appoint a Democrat (a Roman Catholic, no less) to very good effect in the 1856 election. Ike appointed Brennen three weeks before the general election, and probably picked up some swing votes. The only Senator who opposed Brennen's confirmation the next year was Joseph McCarthy.
This may be the most important political event of the last decade, or two decades.
Since 1975, Republicans have seated nine justices, and Democrats have seated only four.
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2016 - 06:17am PT
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Some conservatives are also urging senators to resist Obama's nefarious attempts to "pack the court." Well, if Obama is a court packer by appointing three justices, including one in his final year, then so was Reagan.
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