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Blight
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I also think that you should stop talking about stuff that you dont know anyting about. Like saying that an atheist cant have a fullfilling life.
Really?
I used to be an atheist.
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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i'm pagan agnostic.
i deny the existence of many gods.
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426
Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
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Was it Bush (Sr.) who convinced you to switch?
I don't know that atheists should be regarded as citizens, nor should they be regarded as patriotic.
Seriously...is W. a CINO or a "real one"?
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Blight
Social climber
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Got any other sources than "Table Talk"?
Got any proof that what I quoted was not said by AH?
Even Marx, Stalin and Lenin knew that religion was a useful tool to control the masses - just as hitler did. I doubt anyone would seriously say they were religious though, and neither was hitler.
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Blight
Social climber
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deny the existence of many gods.
Ha! Ha! Ha!
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426
Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
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Yeah, most historians find your singular source to be erroneous. Do you have any "file footage" of him saying that...cause many of the quotes above "Lord and Savior" are actually recorded.
I'm going off of "what he said"...you are not. Your source is hearsay at best.
Take a stab at my question there, I'm curious about your answer...
I'll concur that religion is used to bring the masses to war though...
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Blight
Social climber
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Ah yes, discounting the evidence on the basis that you've not seen it first hand. Desperate but amusing... I guess that you think the world's flat, not having seen its cruve from space yourself!
AHAHAHAHAHAAAA!
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Blight
Social climber
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Okay, I can live with that.
I think that a single source - the person who said it - is pretty good for spoken words.
I guess that's not good enough for you? Fine!
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426
Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
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Just like I don't count on the "NYT" as a "be all end all"...
Not gonna stab at my question? Disappointing....
...here is one problem of your singular source...TT...
Thus, there are three sources in German for the Table-Talk: the Bormann Notes copy of Genoud, which contains the full brunt of Bormann's editings; the fragment of the Bormann Notes in the Library of Congress; and the limited German text of Picker.
Today, according to Richard Carrier and other sources, there are four main published versions of the Table-Talk. The first published was the German manuscript of Picker, which contains no entries subsequent to August 1942, and has only five months of entries which Picker attests are free of Bormann alterations. The second to be published was a French translation by Genoud of his copy of the Bormann Notes. The third was the English translation of Stevensand Cameron, edited by Trevor-Roper. This was a translation of the Genoud's French translation, and was not based upon the German. The fourth and last edition was a printing of Genoud's German original, prepared by Werner Jochmann.
Before we can begin to sort through whatever alterations Bormann himself may have made to the text, it first should be pointed out how faulty the Trevor-Roper edition is, and the Genoud French translation upon which it is based. Carrier has described the Trevor-Roper edition as "worthless," and in fact, he has shown that all of the major anti-Christian passages commonly cited by historians,including the three at the beginning of this chapter, are frauds and are not contained in the original German, in his article "Hitler's Table-Talk: Troubling Finds."
Much more...
http://www.liesexposed.net/nfp/tabletalk/tabletalk.html
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Blight
Social climber
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Looks like your "source" says "Hitler was a Vegetarian"
And?
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426
Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
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and it looks like your quotes are faulty...
Now W, you figure he's a CINO or the real deal?
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Blight
Social climber
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Wow, a pro-atheist web site selling a book saying that hitler wasn't an atheist! How convincing!
Good job there's no bias there or I'd be skeptical!
Oh, and you might want to have a look at what else your source publishes. I like this excerpt from their coverage of the earthquake in seattle:
"Gangs of ferocious blacks roamed the streets attacking white people, beating them unmercifully and robbing them...A perfect example of how the Jews attempted to manipulate the facts was the announcement that three-fourths of the Mardi Gras crime suspects identified were black. To get this lower figure, all those arrested for public drunkenness and disorderly conduct, etc., and classified as white or non-negroid mongrel".
That article gets worse (a lot worse actually). And you questioned my source?
Wow.
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426
Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
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This should sound familiar...
Ah yes, discounting the evidence on the basis that you've not seen it first hand. (the original German document) Desperate but amusing... I guess that you think the world's flat, not having seen its cruve from space yourself!
AHAHAHAHAHAAAA!
...mysteriously enough, no original documents or recordings of Table Talk can be found......
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Blight
Social climber
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426, you're way out of your depth here mate. Give it up already.
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426
Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
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Burden of proof's on you now...I got Mein Kampf, recorded speeches and even some old file footage. You got a source with "no source"...
But I give up, as the Di'Neh say, you can't awaken a man who pretends to sleep...
Take a stab at my question (W a CINO or a real one?), really curious about your answer...
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Blight
Social climber
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W a CINO or a real one?
I have no idea what this means. Could you write it in english please? What is "W", a "CINO" and a real what?
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426
Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
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Is Bush a "Christian in Name Only" or a real one?
D'ya figure the Pope had one of these...
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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i believe w is in bed w/satan.
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raymond phule
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"Good! I don't think you'd do very well as a christian - christianity requires a lot of thinking, questioning and learning. It's really not suited to people like you who want everything hand delivered on a sliver plate in a nice simple format."
Strange i thought the complete opposite in this matter.
I belive that christianity is good for people that want something to belive without having to think.
You are kind of typical for a christian when you dont answer any serious questions. The faith cant be questioned.
I works as a researcher and it is necessary that I question things in everyday life. This is in bad agreement with the faith not questioning religion you praise.
"You have no idea whatsover what I have done.
Ha! Ha! Ha!
If you'd looked, you would have found evidence. The fact that you pretend not to know where to look and to have found none proves that you didn't bother looking."
Blight is it difficult to understand that people dont belive that the bible is evidence for God? I have read articles for the bible and I have read articles against the bible.
"I also think that you should stop talking about stuff that you dont know anyting about. Like saying that an atheist cant have a fullfilling life."
Really?
I used to be an atheist. "
Ok, you had a bad life as an atheist but you still have no clue about other peoples life.
"Even Marx, Stalin and Lenin knew that religion was a useful tool to control the masses - just as hitler did."
Yes, because many religous people base their opinions on faith instead of reason. It is very easy to contol people like blight.
The authors of the bible might have realised that religion was a good way to control the masses.
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