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Degaine
climber
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Jul 23, 2006 - 02:28pm PT
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Unfortunately, Anastasia, many climbers do look at others' accomplishments as a personal challenge against their own abilities.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jul 23, 2006 - 02:34pm PT
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Hey, nobody's willing to risk the cost of a case of beer much less their own skins betting against Reardon.
That said, Bachar is right in admitting that following somebody around on their wired solo circuit would be hard for anybody. A fair challenge would be an onsight solo duel at a mutually acceptable area. Reardon hasn't climbed much in Yosemite so how about there? He can stay at my place. I'll take pictures if I'm in shape enough to even hike fast enough.
and that said, it would be sad if some tragedy emerged from a contest like that. Sooner or later we'll have a video (or not)
You don't have to be a 5.13+ climber to solo 5.12. Just a bit solid on your grade, solid in your composure, and otherwise whacked.
So my "nobody-dies" offer is still good. Reardon will prove that he can solo the Vampire with it's tiny slab 5.11 moves, within a year or I buy you case of green labels!
Kinda reminds me of Mountain Man's thread about Rachel and the DDT. He says it's so safe that the inventor used to drink it but none of the folks who say DDT is safe are willing to drink it to back up their claims!
peace
Karl
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Anastasia
Trad climber
Near a mountain, CA
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Jul 23, 2006 - 02:50pm PT
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Oh, a lifetime supply of shoes which go for $100.00 a pop is too cheap for you? Let me do the numbers... I usually go through a pair of shoes at least every four months... I also usually have at least two pairs that are designed for different climbs. Plus, I plan to be climbing until I'm dead or crippled...
That means that if I stay climbing until my seventies like Bob Kamps, that would be $24,000 dollars worth of shoes in modern day cost...
Your are silly if you can't realize how cool that would be to earn such a deal.
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Anyway...
Bob Kamps once told me that there is no climber greater then another. Our bodies are each different in height, flexibility, center of balance, strength ratio etc. We only can truly climb against ourselves. To climb against someone else is to never really face and discover our own greatness.
Such large concerns and feelings of anger towards Reardon shows that people are not focusing on what really is important. They should instead focus on themselves and see what they can do that is wonderful. They should know that they are the true center that can change the world. The energy they are wasting on Reardon could be instead used to out do him and others. Then again, some people rather complain and argue about greatness then achieve it. Some people watch life happen then live it. That makes me sad...
Like I have said, I wish someone would take the challenge... That would be cool since it will be about climbing instead of negative talk. I can respect that.
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Anastasia
Trad climber
Near a mountain, CA
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Jul 23, 2006 - 03:18pm PT
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This is not a boxing ring against DP and Reardon... This is climbing! It is not about who can beat who! Climbing is about what a person is able to do on the rocks which makes it astounding!
Anyway, DP has his own problems after his stint with climbing Delicate Arches... Apparently many people don't agree on what he is free to do. Plus the fact he did have a film crew to document the incident... Enough said about his intent and purpose with self promotion.
The fact is self promoting is what climbing legends do! It is never good enough to just be good, you have to be able to sell yourself too.
This proves that no one is perfect, no one is the greatest climber ever that needs to be worshiped and glorified.
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Anastasia
Trad climber
Near a mountain, CA
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Jul 23, 2006 - 03:22pm PT
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"Smiling."
I don't resole... I like buying new shoes for it keeps my feet from stinking.
I'm a girl so things like that matter to me.
As for dialing in my footwork. I am always working on that... I always need to improve myself.
What is interesting about your footwork comment is...
You needed to put me down.
Wow, beating up on girls...
Astounding.
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Tahoe climber
Trad climber
Austin, TX to South LakeTahoe, CA
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Jul 23, 2006 - 03:34pm PT
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Look, anastasia, there is something the needs to be clarified, here.
For starters, I actually believe and respect Mike, and think personally that 1) Mike has no motive to lie, and 2) if Bachar vouches for him, that's enough for me.
But here's the rub:
Measuring dicks with Mike ain't going to solve the problem.
Bachar's challenge is interesting, maybe even fascinating, but largely irrelevant to whether Mike has soloed what he says he has. So all of your capitalized challenges and name calling isn't going to prove Mike's capability.
You'd be doing him more of a favor if you'd just rationally state what you've seen him solo, and/or why you believe in him in the first place.
Anything else adds to the naysayers' suspicions.
Same goes for the Wes dude.
There are two separate issues that you seem to be lumping into one.
1) Did Mike in fact solo what he says he has
2) Can anyone "keep up" with him soloing now
-Aaron
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Tahoe climber
Trad climber
Austin, TX to South LakeTahoe, CA
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Jul 23, 2006 - 03:34pm PT
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Look, anastasia, there is something the needs to be clarified, here.
For starters, I actually believe and respect Mike, and think personally that 1) Mike has no motive to lie, and 2) if Bachar vouches for him, that's enough for me.
But here's the rub:
Measuring dicks with Mike ain't going to solve the problem.
Bachar's challenge is interesting, maybe even fascinating, but largely irrelevant to whether Mike has soloed what he says he has. So all of your capitalized challenges and name calling isn't going to prove Mike's capability.
You'd be doing him more of a favor if you'd just rationally state what you've seen him solo, and/or why you believe in him in the first place.
Anything else adds to the naysayers' suspicions.
Same goes for the Wes dude.
There are two separate issues that you seem to be lumping into one.
1) Did Mike in fact solo what he says he has
2) Can anyone "keep up" with him soloing now
-Aaron
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James
climber
A tent in the redwoods
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Jul 23, 2006 - 03:46pm PT
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There are factual accounts of this guy soloing the gnar in the Needles and then tripping on his tongue later in the day. Whatever. This slander is making me sleepy. Anyone want to toss some tips out about how to spit game to one of the slinky hotties up here in Canadia?
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Anastasia
Trad climber
Near a mountain, CA
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Jul 23, 2006 - 03:48pm PT
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Your right,
Reardon's DVD is coming out... Enough said.
Time for me to get myself a beer and remind myself not to take you guys seriously.
I know that time always reveals the truth. It is going to be fun to watch when this thing does get settled.
Wishing everyone the best.
AF
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klinefelter
Boulder climber
Bishop, CA
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Jul 23, 2006 - 04:16pm PT
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"Reardon's DVD is coming out... Enough said."
Indeed.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Jul 23, 2006 - 04:23pm PT
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As I've said before, the footage of MR on EBGB's is badass, and speaks for itself.
Falling from anywhere on that route would seem as fatal as The Vampire.
So how 'bout some footage cruising through the crux of the The Vampire?
And why knott bust out a quick lap on Equinox, Beaver, or Moonbeam Crack?
Didn't Bachar say Equinox was "no big deal"? I thought that was an astonishing statement,
and I would love to see footage of anyone cruising a lap free-solo for the video camera.
For the record, I am not a Readon basher. But if dude is going to self-promote,
I think he should step up the videography a notch––and shut everyone the fuçk up!
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jul 23, 2006 - 06:20pm PT
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While we're at it, I'd like to emphatically state that Batman is a poser who is always yarding up on the rope. (Probably because he doesn't actually have super powers but needs technology to make up for it)
Spiderman generates his own cord and solos (unlike Batman who always has some "boy wonder" watching his back side)
Superman is a foreigner but pretends to be all-american mid-west. BS! He doesn't even pretend to climb!
I think they really don't do their own stunts either. They are liars who use computer generated images to appear larger than life.
Reardon works around hollywood doesn't he? Who knows if we'll really believe his dvd?
Peace
karl
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Richard Large
climber
where you least expect
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Jul 23, 2006 - 07:48pm PT
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I believe MR really DID win the Tour de France.
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Roger Breedlove
Trad climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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Jul 23, 2006 - 08:09pm PT
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I want to propose a new game. One that everyone can play.
The person who is it announces to everyone that they didn't do such and such a route, in such and such a style. Then all their friends (and everyone else who wants to chime in) makes vague statements that seem to say that they didn't see him not do the route in question, but no one can produce any proof, like video footage.
Then every one else can start the slander. Should be fun.
I think Karl should go first. So, Karl, what do you claim knot to have climbed and in what style? Once we get the bugs worked out, we should ask John and Werner to be 'it'. Maybe we can even get Peter to join.
TL,C (or S)
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Jul 23, 2006 - 08:44pm PT
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All right already....free shoes and free underwear for life if you can follow Reardon for a day...you're gonna need it - I'll even throw in some free pairs of "Depends" as well.
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Roger Breedlove
Trad climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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Jul 23, 2006 - 08:51pm PT
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Funny, John. Your are forcing my hand, here, you know?
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Richard Large
climber
where you least expect
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Jul 23, 2006 - 08:59pm PT
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I free soloed Aunt Fanny's Pantry once but the only witness was one of those "designer rat" golden mantled ground squirrels. Does that count?
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bob d'antonio
climber
boulder, co
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Jul 23, 2006 - 09:02pm PT
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JB wrote: All right already....free shoes and free underwear for life if you can follow Reardon for a day...you're gonna need it - I'll even throw in some free pairs of "Depends" as well.
You're in for a long wait.
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westhegimp
Social climber
granada hills
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Jul 23, 2006 - 11:24pm PT
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Test, test,
If I say I saw Mike solo Blood of Christ @ JT what would you say?
If I say I saw Mike solo Burning Bush @ JT what would you say?
If I say I saw Mike solo Burning Bush three times in an hour, (once Mojo) what would you say?
If I say I see Mike solo more than 50 laps almost every time out what would you say?
This is just a test.
Wes
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Jul 23, 2006 - 11:26pm PT
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Hey, I thought this was slander Mikey thread?
But, for the record, I've never climbed Astroman or even Mortalman. You could probably measure me and the Harding Slot if you wanted proof.
Peace
karl
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