If it was bolted on lead...

Why do the same people that think the FA party have the final say object to adding a bolt with consent from the FA party?

it's not ok to retrobolt even with the FAs permission - leave that sh#t alone and either pony up or look away.

...MY ROCKS, MY CRAGS...

I'm not all for routes that are ankle busters, or worse, but since there are some who are, be it the BY or an unremarkable 5.4, those who first ascended an R or X route, engaged in a mental challenge arguably important to get good at if climbing outside at all. What is climbing to become if it is all merely safe, and f'n completely boring."

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The majority of the easy routes at Pinnacles are poorly protected, yet the majority of the difficult routes are well protected -- aren't we doing a disservice to the community by having a different standard for those that are new to the sport?

What I hear mainly from FAists, rap bolting isn’t generally a respected form of putting up a route unless it is way too difficult for most people to ever consider putting up ground up. Undoubtedly there are awesome lines put up that way. What’s not so cool, “development”, especially by rap bolters who would usurp routes at such a rate as Healyj says, I’ve heard so many purists intimate it’s like stealing the adventure and the history that could be made. And so is adding bolts to climbs without the FAists consent, maybe even with consent years later.