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Truthdweller
Trad climber
San Diego, CA (stuck in Jersey)
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Jul 31, 2014 - 10:39pm PT
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Yes, we are a Christian nation.
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go-B
climber
Cling to what is good!
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...chow!
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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Yes, we are a Christian nation.
Says the Christian... LOL.
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go-B
climber
Cling to what is good!
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Acts 4:12 And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”
...by the name of Jesus Christ, but thank God there is one! :)
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Sep 10, 2014 - 04:20pm PT
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From the
"Now You've Got To Be a Christian to re-up in the Air Force" department
The US air force has told an atheist airman he must swear his re-enlistment oath to God or he will not be allowed to reenlist, according to the American Humanist.
The airman, who is stationed at Creech air force base in Nevada, has not been identified. The service said he has until November to swear the oath required of all servicemembers, which concludes with the phrase “so help me God”.
The American Humanist Association said in a letter to the air force (pdf) last week that the officer was told that he either had to say the phrase or leave the service. The airman has previously crossed out the phrase in a written contract and refused to say it out loud, and was told August 25 that the contract would therefore not be accepted for re-enlistment.
The group believes the oath as currently required is a violation of the airman’s constitutional rights under the first amendment and demanded that he be allowed to re-enlist without using the phrase.
US law requires the phrase to be included in the oath given to all servicemembers, though its implementation is left to each branch of the military. Air force members could omit the phrase until the service updated its directive on the oath in October 2013. Before that, the instruction for the oath included the phrase: “Airmen may omit the words ‘so help me God,’ if desired for personal reasons.”
The air force has said it cannot change the rule without congressional action.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/us-air-force-sergeant-reenlist-god-oath
Odd,
I don't recall that being an atheist would get you out of admission to the Armed Forces during the Vietnam War. Would have been a lot simpler than the whole Conscientious Objected application process. They probably put the atheists right out there on the front lines.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujň de la Playa
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Sep 10, 2014 - 08:22pm PT
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"Here you are, appearing as your own witness; your testimony is not valid."
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Sep 10, 2014 - 08:28pm PT
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OH boy post #1500
Being against something only gives it more power.
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thebravecowboy
climber
strugglin' to make time to climb
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Sep 10, 2014 - 10:29pm PT
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man you guys remind me of those people always shouting that gibberish "takbir!" "Allah-u-akbar!" etc, etc.
anyway, continue with your yargle-bargle.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Sep 11, 2014 - 09:49am PT
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When signing up for the Air Farce, I wonder if instead of
"So help me God"
can you say "Im s'Allah"?
or "So help me Elohim?
or "Blessings from Brahman"?
hmmm......what could a Buddhist say?
I guess Muslims, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists will be as out of luck as atheists.
perhaps the Navy will have them?
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Sep 11, 2014 - 10:24am PT
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Christian organizations are now trying to ban athiests from the military.
What a great idea! Send the christians to war and kill them all!
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Sep 11, 2014 - 02:17pm PT
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^^^^
Crusades!
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Sep 14, 2014 - 07:47am PT
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Not entirely clear but the above numnut is apparently a racist christian who hates the race of
Jesus. Who, by the way, is the only way to heaven.
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Sep 14, 2014 - 09:19am PT
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It's sometime too easily forgotten that the early Christians were in fact Jews.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Sep 14, 2014 - 09:23am PT
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Sep 14, 2014 - 09:53am PT
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no ron we aren't a muslim nation. either.
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 14, 2014 - 09:54am PT
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Atheists lop off heads too.
Big fuking deal.
You people are so stupid.
This thread is like watching backwater yokels playing Klu Klux klan.
Nutcases ....
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Sep 14, 2014 - 11:03am PT
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I can only speak of Muslims here in my area. They put on food drives, Shelter the homeless, arrange financial aid to the poor, and set up countless other charitable groups. So far, i havent seen or read about any of them be- heading anyone.
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go-B
climber
Cling to what is good!
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Sep 14, 2014 - 01:02pm PT
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...What will you do when your stogie goes out and you spill your drink?
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Sep 14, 2014 - 02:08pm PT
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Tell me Chief
how many Muslims do you know?
Would you trust them with your kids?
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