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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Oct 29, 2009 - 02:53pm PT
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Hang in there man.
I was warned when I first got here about having thick skin.
It was very good advice.
I've done some really hard pitches in my day, and I've climbed many hard big walls, but around here, I'm no bigshot.
There are older guys here who are more bad#ss than I ever was.
There are a lot of younger guys here who are more bad#ss than I ever was.
I'm just some old dude in the middle somewhere.
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Afghani
Trad climber
Yay Area
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2009 - 03:23pm PT
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Survival, I can handle any bs thrown at me. But when it gets racist to where Pate took it, I tend to get a little edgy. Whatever, though.
Wes - you must have dated this chick? Haha.
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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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Oct 29, 2009 - 03:44pm PT
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Hey Mason-
Here's a fun and easy way to gain a cursory knowledge of American free climbing, and of the many accomplishments of some of the climbers that contribute to this site.
The book is called
WIZARDS OF ROCK-
A HISTORY OF FREE CLIMBING IN THE US
I highly recommend this book.
It's kind of a "cliff notes" of the progression of climbing.
I don't think you'll find that it's all crusty boring old crap.
You'll read about sick chit that has gone down year by year, and it really puts "hard" climbing in perspective.
Best of all, it was authored by someone on this site!!!-
he goes by PATRICK OLIVER (FYI-he's a legend).
There is a thread concerning him and his health right now-
(Disintigrating rock).
He's cool, and if you send him an email and a check, he'll send you an autographed copy.
Getting humbled is part of climbing, whether it's by the rock itself, or by rock climbers. Keep climbing. Have fun. Be safe. Don't be a kook.
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Blinky
Trad climber
Hillsborough, NC
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Oct 29, 2009 - 03:47pm PT
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"One of the things you get out of climbing, when you burn someone off, it's really good." -Moffatt
I think the more important quote in that clip is, "You've really not got to get bored with climbing..."
I get burned off all the time by young kids... REALLY young kids, it's amusing, I love it. I burned of a few old men years ago, a lot of younger ones too. It's funny how when you get older, it becomes so insignificant. Face it, the stakes are just, really, really low. We'll all be burned off sooner or later.
It's the same everywhere, new skool wouldn't exist without old skool. Nobody has to pay homage or respect their elders... but doing so is the purest style there is.
To me, climbing isn't about being great or winning anything...
...climbing is about style and the elegance of the line. Anything worth doing well is about the line. It's personal.
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426
climber
Buzzard Point, TN
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Oct 29, 2009 - 09:10pm PT
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Afg:
"Rock climbers here are some of the biggest haters I've met. Instead of encouraging climbers, they cut them down."..."Why are all these kids running around looking like goth kids merged with psycho ward patients? I swear, if I ever saw an Emo rock climber, I'd quit the sport and probably kick the kid's ass."
:?
While there are certainly veins of competition in venues on crimbing, *haha, Moffatt bump--classy post Blinky* most all of my experiences have been positive. Jaybro taught me the shin/hand stack™, CMac taught me how to move in aiders™ , Hootervillian taught me how to roll aretes one handed™ , Minerals taught me how to tear up to 11k on 2 wheels™ , Dano taught me how to pitch™ (still working on it) , Klaus taught me how to clean my paws™ ...
Not that I can or do use any of the above on the regular, i could go on and on, but I'll just reiterate what Legrand taught me, "learn by watching...™ " Course he's Euro, YMMV.
Jaybro, I gotta pull out dosage 4 for the music link. Might be at work, will drop you a line...
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Afghani
Trad climber
Yay Area
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2009 - 12:16am PT
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Uh - I think most people can agree your email was spastic and a little on the psychotic, stalker side. Mine. Yea...anyway. LOL??
I echo Wes's comments. You are an idiot. At least you have the decency to admit to your idiocy, I'll give ya that much. And here I thought you were actually a halfway intelligent guy. Like I said about first impressions.
Secondly, what exactly pissed you off in this thread? I am just curious. Because I didn't say a whole lot of anything that was supposed to be taken seriously. I really don't give a sh#t, though. My curiosity is just peaked. Are you still pissed about that whole posting, give homage to the king debacle a month ago? Did you say grudge? Oh wait, you said something about ignorance, too. Was that when you were talking about how cowardly and freakish Afghan suicide bombers are? Tangent: How can one be a coward and a suicide bomber at the same time? Anyway...
Yea, I'm calling climbers haters. I know, because I am one, too.
Jefe, ok man, I'll stop bein' a kook and check out that book one of these days. Just as long as you promise to never post another pic of you and your dog again.
That's a joke, dude. Don't go all Patespastic on me. Forgive me if I can't be thankful for you friendly post just at this moment in time. You were nice and I acknowledge that. Maybe one day I can belay you to repay the kindness. Seriously, you're right. Everything in your post is genuine and I don't disagree with it.
In closing. Pate must remember that the Afghans are supported by the US and its armed forces. They are friendly towards Afghanistan and its plight. They are not friendly towards Taliban, who just happen to NOT be Afghan. They came from Pakistan. So, when you spout racism and ignorance towards Afghanis, you are actually being anti-American. Just throwin' that out there.
I have realized that I am no good at politics so I'm just gonna say, "screw it."
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Idaho, also. Sorta, kinda mostly, Yeah.
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Oct 30, 2009 - 12:19am PT
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Jefe rules.
That BoyoBoy has a good 'tude. I like it.
Skully(still in school)
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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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"Jefe, ok man, I'll stop bein' a kook and check out that book one of these days. Just as long as you promise to never post another pic of you and your dog again.
That's a joke, dude. Don't go all Patespastic on me. Forgive me if I can't be thankful for you friendly post just at this moment in time. You were nice and I acknowledge that. Maybe one day I can belay you to repay the kindness. Seriously, you're right. Everything in your post is genuine and I don't disagree with it."
Aww shukks, mason.
1. Don't talk about my dog. Ever.
2. "Patespasitic", thanks. I'll use that.
3. "Maybe one day I can belay you to repay the kindness."
Ummm, hook up a "chunk of sheesh" from your homeland
and maybe I'll "let" you belay me, with a grigri.
I gotta warn you, though, I've been climbing for 22 years
and might flail on 5.8. So maybe you should lead.
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atchafalaya
climber
Babylon
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I thought old school meant you were busy telling others how, why or when you climbed, and new school meant you were too busy climbing to care about anything but climbing.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Old school and new school are the same it just depends where you are on the continuum. If you've reached old school and you're still climbing, you're probably getting it on because you know your days are numbered. Off to Sardinia tomorrow for three weeks under, I hope, a glorious Mediterranean sun!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Well post to us on the contentuum.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Atch, is that why the new schoolers have to spend so much time spraying the world about what they are doing, instead of just climbing?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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bro! Where I come from that salutation is an insult.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Atch, you have all of that new school lingo down, I'll bet you're a young fella full of vim and vinegar.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Christ, Wes! What are these young fellas going to think of next? I'll bet you wont vote him into the club just because of that one manuever.
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atchafalaya
climber
Babylon
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Vim and vinegar? Is that an old school saying?
I am young compared to you Donini. But we all are.
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John Vawter
Social climber
San Diego
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Wes, you sure it was the runner, and not because he didn't stick clip it?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Yes Atch, it is rather old school. Young is how you feel....wait a minute, I take that back.
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