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EdBannister

Mountain climber
13,000 feet
Jul 9, 2018 - 08:52pm PT
2014 FJ Cruiser with locking rear, and the factory crawl system has been astounding...
only added slightly taller toyo tires...

170,000 miles flawless. no broken anything.

i listed my favorite trick earlier, repeat it here:

parking lot to road has a hill with black ice? forget chaining up. just use the XC spray red klister,... works great!


also, those little tire repair kit air pumps do not work as well after a few years, i think the seals go, if it has been a while, buy a new one.
ManMountain

Mountain climber
San Diego
Jul 10, 2018 - 11:50am PT
The tire needs a sudden burst of air. Throw in a couple tablespoons of gasoline, spin a few revolutions to distribute and vaporize. Throw a match to it and the tire goes on with a ball of flame and a bang.

Carb cleaner or hairspray works well too.
ruppell

climber
Jul 10, 2018 - 06:00pm PT
Dapper Dan

I'm talking about driveline work. I just got off the phone with High Desert Driveline out of Hesperia. Solid shop that came highly recommended. The owners sourcing the flanges and Toyo u-joints for me. He's only a few days out to complete them once I get the duals in.

I'm still waiting on the damn trans to t-case coupler. Once it gets here I can finish putting the duals in. I was hoping to have them in Sunday but that's life.

As far as axle shafts go, I'm still rocking the OEM Toyo shafts. They're pretty damn hard steel. Once then get knockered I'll do a full float conversion in the rear.

You still wheeling your rig?
EdBannister

Mountain climber
13,000 feet
Jul 10, 2018 - 06:41pm PT
Favorite bear repellent:
small can of starting fluid (alcohol) and a lighter = 6-8 foot directable flame. mini flamethrower

keep this away from guys playing with gas, tires and matches.


once drove my 2x down a road that i failed to notice early enough turned to sand.. i dug smooth low pathways for all four tires. then poured water on three, when i got to the 4th i realized i needed to pee.. i smoothly accelerated in reverse to a solid place to turn around.
ruppell

climber
Jul 14, 2018 - 06:12pm PT
If the going gets too tough for the vehicle I'm in, whatever the vehicle, I turn around. Hopefully I've kept my eyes open for the opportunity to turn around, too.

DMT

That is exactly what not being stupid is. Know your rig, know your capabilities and know when you're about to exceed them. Preferably before you exceed them. Everyone makes errors in judgement and sh#t happens. Using some common sense will always trump a winch or a hi-lift.

In my effort to make my rig even more capable I went ahead and installed a dual case. It's not done but it's damn close. I just need the driveshafts and some console work to finish it.




Dapper Dan

Trad climber
Redwood City
Jul 14, 2018 - 09:27pm PT
Looking good Ruppell. Looks like a twin stick? So you can be in 2wd in any gearing configuration? What is gear ratio on your duals? I have the Toyota 2.2 case and Marlin 4.7 case. And can run both cases for a low low gearing. Altogether I have 20 forward gear ratios and 4 reverse ratios.

ruppell

climber
Jul 15, 2018 - 08:36am PT
Dapper Dan

Thanks. After some yard work this afternoon will be spent bending the shifters and getting everything re-sealed. Then I'll drop the console back in.

My 97 4Runner is an auto. The stock case is twin sticked and has a 2.57 ratio. The crawlbox I went with 2.28's. With 5.29's in both diffs that give me a 87:1 ratio. In auto's the torque converter effectively doubles the ratio so I'n 1st I'll have about 175:1 ratio.

I went twin stick on the rear case for a few reasons. The first was because not many guys have done it in 3rd gen 4Runners. The second in my truck is ADD. I carry a spare CV and a spare stub shaft to plug one if they both break. On the off chance I ever break both I can still run in 2lo locked to get back out.

The mod is pretty easy. You just split the rear case and remove the interlock pin that connects the shift rails for the J-shift. Then you grind off a portion of the 4wd shift rail so the rails clear each other. Throw it all back together and put on the new shifters.
Juan Maderita

Trad climber
"OBcean" San Diego, CA
Sep 15, 2018 - 05:23pm PT
Jeep's forward progress halted by guacamole!

Amazing and true story:
Finally getting around to posting this incident from a few years ago. Wife tried to leave for work in the morning in her Jeep Grand Cherokee (4.0L, Dana 35C rear axle, open diff, Michelin M&S rated tires).
She came back in the house, somewhat frantic, saying that the (automatic) transmission was not working and that she smelled something like burning rubber. I went outside expecting the worst. Climbed into the driver's seat. The Jeep was pointed up the rather steep hill in front of my house. Started it up, put it in gear, gave it some throttle. No forward movement, nothing, nada. Heard a whirring noise at the rear right side. Got out for a look...

Green slime around the right rear tire mixed with a bit of burnt rubber.
Turns out the neighbor's tree had dropped an avocado. The avocado rolled down the hill, stopping against the rear tire, next to the curb. The initial forward movement of the tire squished the avocado. The instant guacamole coated the tire with slippery slime. I busted out in laughter, picturing the headline, "Jeep defeated by a single avocado!!!"

Now for those of you who may not know about open differentials, limited-slip (aka: Positraction), and locking differentials, my story may encourage you to do some research. When you read how ineffective open differentials are under certain conditions, you may be inspired to upgrade your axles.

Btw, the Grand Cherokee is a daily driver. The other Jeep (a Wrangler) has a Detroit Locker in the front and an Eaton e-Locker in the rear (Ford 8.8 axle).
Lemurian

climber
Bend
Sep 16, 2018 - 02:14pm PT
Ratchet straps and a limb, or board, is another nifty trick.

https://youtu.be/k8ie05PybBI
ruppell

climber
Sep 16, 2018 - 07:27pm PT
The Dusy was done. We ran south to north and had a blast.

Everyone but me got some body damage. I managed to avoid that but did manage to break an outer tie rod end, 4 CV axles and I bent the shaft on my passenger side King shock.

Once I got the truck home I realized the CV's where breaking on the passenger side because I rolled my diff. I bent and cracked the passenger side front diff mounting bracket and severely bent the rear mount. i also bent the add tube. That put the diff 1" higher on the passenger side. It effectively added an inch of droop. Not a good thing where CV's are concerned.

The trucks fixed and getting ready for Big Bear this weekend. In the meantime I need to install some limit straps on the front. That will prevent any future CV breaks.

Here's a few photo's of the carnage and the trail.











The Dusy/Ershim lives up to the hype that surrounds it. There's not many trials of it's length and difficulty. I couldn't have asked for a better group of guys to do it with. We all have already made plans to do it again next year.

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 16, 2018 - 11:30pm PT
wow! That looks amazing!

Ironic post to me in that I just replaced a broken bearing and cv axle on my Taco. I'm pretty sure its from hwy 680 truck lane bumps, but I might be wrong. heh
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