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Psilocyborg
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Mar 28, 2015 - 11:49am PT
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I have seen a jet fighter in Kern canyon while I was hiking a few miles up river from the forks. It was f*#king wild
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Psilocyborg
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Mar 28, 2015 - 11:59am PT
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Hmmm I wonder if that Oct 1 test in 2009 was the one I saw. We had just packed up camp in the AM. Suddenly there was an explosion of sound. My first thought was the canyon is collapsing on us, but I looked up and saw everything intact. My next thought was nuclear explosion, or aliens. Then I saw a black streak turn the corner 1/4 mile ahead of us that I could tell was an F-16 or something similar.
Go look on a topic map, find forks of the Kern, follow that up river until it starts doing 90 degree turns. I saw that jet make that 1st corner! Then it was gone....
Anyway I remember it was OCT, and the year should have been 08,09,OR 10
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jstan
climber
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Mar 28, 2015 - 12:42pm PT
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The Air Force used to carry out nap of the earth missions in the Monument also until they got complaints. You could look down and see jets going past. All done for radar avoidance. On the way to the east side I once saw even a blackbird barely 200 feet off the deck.
Mission parameters make ground avoidance a really big deal.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Mar 28, 2015 - 12:50pm PT
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I saw a flight like that in Idyllwild, many years ago...I was at Suicide, and this plane comes ripping into the valley headed straight towards the hillside where the Devils Slide Trail is, then at the last moment pulls back hard and soars over Saddle Junction. No idea if it was training or thrillseeking, but it was louder than hell!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 28, 2015 - 12:59pm PT
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Ap, that was purely joy-riding. There are low level Military Training Routes
all over the place but Idy ain't one of 'em. They are clearly marked on
aviation maps and civvy pilots are well warned to be VERY AWARE if they dare
go there. The joy boys are not supposed to exceed 250 kts but, boys will
be boys. I saw an A-6 almost T-bone a Cessna on an MTR once. I'm sure
the A-6 never saw the Cessna's radar return in the background clutter of
the canyon. Luckily the Cessna driver saw the A-6. He banked hard and
headed straight for the nearest dry cleaner's.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Mar 28, 2015 - 01:28pm PT
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I haven't kept up here, but I was told yesterday by a commercial pilot with 30 years of experience that the keypad lock-out was not a one-time action, but had to be repeated at intervals.
He wasn't sure but he thought the interval was between two and five minutes. He also stated that this type of plane has a camera so that the co-pilot knew who was at the door.
So if he is correct, then just like Jesus & Judas, the pilot was denied several times.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Mar 28, 2015 - 02:10pm PT
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The second page or so of the manual describes the "upgrade" with a mechanical deadbolt.
We had a B1-B fly underneath us twice when we were on Voodoo Dome once.
He was about level with the road. He was in terrain automatic following mode decades before ATAC.
On one pass there was an old pickup on on the road that he passed.
I doubt the driver was wearing anything that required dry cleaning, but a trip to the laundromat was probably in order.
The lookout is a waypoint on an MTR so there's occasional interesting traffic up there on weekdays. They seem to take weekends off
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Mar 28, 2015 - 02:20pm PT
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The most damning evidence is reprogramming the autopilot to 100 feet. That can't be done accidentally.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2015 - 03:10pm PT
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Werner, I finally had time comb through the manual.
I see the mechanical override on pg 32 but it says it's only operable from the cockpit side.
A mechanical override enables the flight crew to open the door from the cockpit side.
There is also an emergency override code but it is inactive when the door is in the locked position.
LOCK position:Once the button has been moved to this position, the door is locked ;emergency access, the buzzer, and the keypad are inhibited for a preselected time (5 to 20 min).
So they hacked the locking system? How did they prevent the pilots from using the manual override or pulling the pins on the escape hatch on the door?
I supposed it could have been replaced with one with a non-functioning escape hatch especially designed for that purpose.
I see where you're going with the crypto ag thing too. It is possible they hacked the system and planted the instructions in the computer. Then they also planted the tapes in the black box?
They paid the girl to back up the story or she is an agent they planted.
It's all very far fetched but I suppose it is possible.
The New York Times reports that he sought treatment for an unspecified vision problem that had the potential to end his career. As with his psychological problems, the 27-year-old apparently did not reveal the vision trouble to his employer, says the newspaper, which cites two anonymous investigation officials for the scoop. It's also possible that all of Lubitz's problems were related: One of those officials says the vision trouble, whose details aren't specified, might have been psychosomatic.
It is also possible this was a tumor like that marine's which was pressing on his optic nerve causing blindness and made him go crazy..
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 28, 2015 - 03:21pm PT
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The New York Times reports
two anonymous investigation officials for the scoop.
The New York Times is notorious for this kind of bullsh!t.
It's always anonymous guys steering the story away from the truth.
Crypto Ag ,,,, is the link.
Sat phone is the hint,
Americans are .....
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Mar 28, 2015 - 03:55pm PT
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The Ducks special investigative team (spies) at work...Sat phone included.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 28, 2015 - 04:16pm PT
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LOL
Are you sure?
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2015 - 04:18pm PT
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So you just hack the plane????
Cryptographers have cracked the encryption schemes used in a variety of satellite phones, a feat that makes it possible for attackers to surreptitiously monitor data received by vulnerable devices.
The research team, from the Ruhr University Bochum in Germany, is among the first to analyze the secret encryption algorithms implemented by the European Telecommunications Standards Institute. After reverse engineering phones that use the GMR-1 and GMR-2 standards, the team discovered serious cryptographic weaknesses that allow attackers using a modest PC running open-source software to recover protected communications in less than an hour.
Over the past couple of years, cryptographers have gradually whittled away at many of the algorithms protecting data sent by phones. Standards including GSM, DECT (Digital Enhanced Cordless Telecommunications), and GPRS (General Packet Radio Service) have all been targeted. Devices that are vulnerable to the latest attacks include the Thuraya So-2510 and the Inmarsat IsatPhone Pro.
http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/02/crypto-crack-makes-satellite-phones-vulnerable-to-eavesdropping/
FARNBOROUGH, United Kingdom, July 14, 2014 – L-3 Aviation Recorders (L-3 AR) announced today that it has received Airbus’ formal notification of certification for the L-3 AFIRS 228S (Automated Flight Information and Reporting System) for the Airbus A320 family of aircraft. The AFIRS 228S is an Iridium-based SATCOM system providing satellite cockpit voice and aircraft data transmission capability to airline operators worldwide.
http://www.l-3ar.com/news/2014/L-3_Iridium_SATCOM_Solution_Certified_Airbus_A320.html
FLYHT’s AFIRS 228 Iridium Global Communications System provides aircraft crew with reliable voice and data services using Iridium’s global satellite network. Data based services available through the AFIRS 228 include automated OOOIs, flight following, engine trending, live-FOQA exceedance reporting, and fuel management.
Designed to Meet the Following Specifications
ARINC 429 Mark 33 Digital Information Transfer System
ARINC 618 Air/Ground Character Oriented Protocol Specification
ARINC 739A Multi-Purpose Control and Display Unit
ARINC 741 Aviation Satellite Communication System
ARINC 761 Second Generation Aviation Satellite Communication System
ARINC 717 Flight Data Acquisition and Recording System
RTCA/DO-160F
RTCA/DO-178B – AFIRS 228S
TSO C-159a – AFIRS 228S
SITA VAQ – AFIRS 228S
ARINC AQP – AFIRS 228S
http://flyht.com/products/afirs-228/
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 28, 2015 - 04:30pm PT
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Big Mike
No need to hack anything.
Crypto AG has all the back doors access already installed.
NSA, CIA, banker cabal etc, has all the back doors from crypto ag.
You're getting lukewarm Mike .....
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2015 - 04:38pm PT
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Disturbing.
Edit: Never said I believed anything. My mind is always open to possibilities however.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Mar 28, 2015 - 04:53pm PT
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What's disturbing is that anyone would believe this conspiracy nonsense.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Mar 28, 2015 - 08:09pm PT
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i get a suicide note
tattooed on my chest.
but it'll writin'
upside down and for
the concluding punctuation
mark i'll don
an exceeding void
where my head once
rested.
and laying there
i'll represent
exclamation.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Mar 28, 2015 - 10:57pm PT
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OP should set thread autopilot to 100 feet also, and delete on impact.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2015 - 12:09am PT
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lol
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Mar 29, 2015 - 12:48am PT
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Lol, noshet, eh? This thread is still young. It will get better. Or worse, if ya hafta see it that way.
I heard that he already lost his soul almost a year ago and the opportunity just presented itself. They're out there. ;D
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