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WBraun
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Nov 26, 2011 - 07:00pm PT
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We need to go back to making a fire in the house.
Light the house on fire for that warm toasty lighting and feeling ....
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 07:04pm PT
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Klimmer the latest PV technology takes a trickle charge for electrolysis to charge up a hydrogen cell for night time use. It is very cool stuff that is available NOW!
Of course these FOX educated throwbacks would prefer to drill baby drill and burn baby burn and nuke baby nuke rather than give a damn about the planet or future generations.
Hank I would freely state you are a better commercial sparky.
Would you deny I am a better artist?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 07:09pm PT
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Not what I asked skipper.
If you can't dance don't start tappin' your toes at me.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2011 - 07:10pm PT
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Philo: Hank I would freely state you are a better commercial sparky.
Would you deny I am a better artist?
Wire pulling as an art? Now I've heard it all.....
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Nov 26, 2011 - 07:11pm PT
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Klimmer the latest PV technology takes a trickle charge for electrolysis to charge up a hydrogen cell for night time use. It is very cool stuff that is available NOW!
Philo,
Very interesting. Can you direct me to a reliable article on that? I googled but didn't find anything to look into. Thanks.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 07:11pm PT
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Russ, Assholeness as a hobby or way of life.
Yes Klimmer I can and will a bit later. The Solar tech coming on line will blow these FoX viewers minds and revolutionize our power uses while greening our environment.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2011 - 07:16pm PT
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Philo: Russ, Assholeness as a hobby or way of life.
Gee Philo... you getting all surly over there?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 26, 2011 - 07:20pm PT
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Skip is right as usual, but Philos will keep argueing for Green do-nothing crap, and Werner will tell us to light our houses on fire.
Anybody got a lightbulb?
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 26, 2011 - 07:22pm PT
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What makes it a scam?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 07:23pm PT
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Blue, Skipt is NEVER right as usual.
Skipt you don't have the chops to debate me why try. All you can do is lie and fling poo.
Hank you know exactly what I mean. I am a design artist. Most electricians only care if it turns on so they can get to beerthirty. Like J Hasse, I come from lighting design in the theatre and as such am far more concerned with what the light does. John recognized that in me right away. Which is why he handed install and layout to me as a solo first year apprentice. You yourself commented many times that my rapid learning curve was almost unprecedented. Anyone can hang a light. Not everyone can light a space artistically.
It's somewhat of a moot point now as the damage to me spinal chord is beyond repair and will be extremely limiting to me from now on.
So Hank what is your take on LEDs?
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2011 - 07:26pm PT
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Hank, I think you got slighted for not being an artist at pulling wire. I still think you are the best though.... group hug bra!
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 26, 2011 - 07:27pm PT
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Your XRAY explains a lot.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 26, 2011 - 07:28pm PT
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So a lighting designer?
Where did you get your degree?
What software packages do you use?
What's the minimum code level in FC at floor level for a commercial occupancy?
Theater?
Parking lot?
What's the recommended level for a warehouse?
Food prep areas?
Precision mechanical assembly?
If you really are a lighting designer you know those answers off the top of your head.
I employed four lighting designers once. All with engineering degrees.
You are also completely out to lunch on your understanding of how the transmission grid works.
Calif C-10 41XXXX. 40+ years in the trade.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Nov 26, 2011 - 07:39pm PT
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And when did the Bulb Act get enacted?
2007.
And what was it called?
The Energy Independence & Security Act.
The Republicans voted it in, but now that we have a Democratic Prez------suddenly the whole thing is a left-wing Obama-commie power-play.
Maybe Republicans should study history a little more and Fox TV a little less?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/13/business/energy-environment/republicans-fail-to-annul-new-light-bulb-law.html
The standards were part of the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, a broad update of the country’s energy policy signed into law by President George W. Bush. Thirty-six House Republicans voted for the standards in an amendment offered by Representative Fred Upton, Republican of Michigan.
“This common-sense, bipartisan approach partners with American industry to save energy as well as help foster the creation of new domestic manufacturing jobs,” Mr. Upton said in a December 2007 statement. He is now chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Nov 26, 2011 - 07:41pm PT
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The sad thing is all these great climbers spending ALL DAY on a perfectly good Saturday arguing about light bulbs.
The Brits on this site gotta be ROFLOL
Hey, I'm just resting from scraping paint on the windowsills.
Hi Fritz! Welcome to the fray. I guess it's dark in Idaho now.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Nov 26, 2011 - 08:02pm PT
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Spider! Indeed! We did go for a long hike in our frosty foothills. Cold, breezy & Miserable at 6,000 ft., but the rattlers were in hiding.
Frosty Petrolgyphs were out & about.
Ice skating on a pour-over water-hole by the petroglyphs: was a secondary bonus.
Argue on dudes. Sorry to interupt ;)
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corniss chopper
climber
breaking the speed of gravity
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Nov 26, 2011 - 08:09pm PT
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Philo - this absolutely will put a smile on your face.
Big Sisters new LED Street Lights that will Spy On us.
CAN RETRO FIT INTO existing light poles: equipped with LED street light, speaker system, motion sensors, video cameras, mics, computer, radio and other crap nobody wants.
Intellistreets is presently being installed in Farmington Hills, Michigan.
story and promo video that's right out of 1984
http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/street-lights-that-spy-on-you/
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Nov 26, 2011 - 09:12pm PT
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Corniss,
Hadn't seen that website or heard of that story before.
The truth of the ad comes in the last few seconds where they talk about the Homeland Security enhancements (DHS) that are available.
They are racing to bring on the NWO. Unbelievable really.
MARANATHA
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2011 - 09:20pm PT
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Hank you know exactly what I mean. I am a design artist. Most electricians only care if it turns on so they can get to beerthirty. Like J Hasse, I come from lighting design in the theatre and as such am far more concerned with what the light does. John recognized that in me right away. Which is why he handed install and layout to me as a solo first year apprentice. You yourself commented many times that my rapid learning curve was almost unprecedented. Anyone can hang a light. Not everyone can light a space artistically.
It's somewhat of a moot point now as the damage to me spinal chord is beyond repair and will be extremely limiting to me from now on.
Does all that mean you are not a real, ie: licensed electrician, like Hank? Bummer you need to slam a whole trade by saying they are only interested in beer-thirty.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Nov 26, 2011 - 09:34pm PT
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Really, who cares about the particulars. What's important is how one looks under these lites.....LOL Super Grins, lynne
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