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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Hahah,
Didn't see a single person on Sat. Climbing in a great spot with many 1-7 pitch routes, plus an abandoned mine at the camping spot! Chill.
kev
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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No line on 'Show us your Tits' Sunday; one of the most popular routes, on one of the most popular formations, in one of the most popular areas in California. On a Memorial day weekend, no less.
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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Idaho is the best. Everyone should move to Idaho. California sucks. Don't move here.
The end.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Rgold really nailed it up there.
He said, and I quote:
Hmm...lots of heat, mostly not about Donnini's actual point. But I'm not sure why we should care if folks are scraping off every urban escarpment they can find and bolting it. Every pile of choss with a bunch of climbers on it is that many fewer climbers on the good stuff...sounds more like a solution than a problem to me. California is one of the climbing jewels of the planet.
end of story- nailed it.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Somehow we poor Cali's manage to "get along." :D
As for anthill's Rox......wish we had more red ant hills here again so the horned toad lizards would make a comeback.
Idaho.....last time I camped there at the entrance to the campground a sign said, " this campground is for all people regardless of race, creed or color. Have never seen a sign like that before or since....never went back to Idaho. If you have to spell it out there's something amiss imho. Peace, Lynne
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Rox,
Is there anything you aren't an expert on?
Fortunately I know some nice normal people from Idaho. They sure don't seem to share you views. And I won't let you poison my view of Idahoians...
At least I don't have to worry about finfing you climbing since I go to the many places that people don't in the Sierras...
kev
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telemon01
Trad climber
Montana
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We love California....
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telemon01
Trad climber
Montana
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We love Idaho, too....
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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The place is hell on earth...don't go there!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Looks nice, you guys, but can you imagine how good it would be if it was in, say, "I don't know"?
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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BlowJox,
So sorry you lack the intellect to look at a keyboard and see the 'f' near the 'd'. Then again that would imply a certain level of intellect...
smiles
kev
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
Berkeley, CA
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Let's face it, if many of us could make it pay somewhere closer to our preferred crags, we'd do it, right? But most people live close (somewhat) to where they work and most office park, worker bee type jobs aren't in places like Jackson. Of course there are careers that would allow you to live in a smaller foothill town. So most climbers live in the (sub)urban areas and climb the closest thing they can find that looks like rock. That seems pretty logical, for better or worse.
California isn't blesed with urban locations next to the rock like maybe some other places, but to argue that the state is anything other than world class overall and most likely tops in the US is delusional.
I know if I could pull it off, I'd be in Sonora or somewhere a helluva lot closer to the good rock. And you'd better believe I've looked at that website listed on that weirdo billboard west of Oakley that mentions something about high Sierra play and high tech jobs (oops)
Joxstrap, you've polluted this thread more than the soil at Mountain Home. Get a job.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
merced, california
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Jun 16, 2012 - 09:29am PT
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Nothing sad about California climbing except you'll likely never visit half the places it goes on here, let alone exhaust the potential for new routes.
If you don't like California, leave it to Beaver or go climb on the Cleaver. It's real close to Twin Lakes. You can't miss it. If that doesn't appeal, look at Matterhorn Peak and the rest of Sawtooth Ridge. These are pretty typical "loser climbs," but standard for this state.
Sheesh. Some people. No satisfying them. Bloom where you are planted, but climb wherever you can, in any of these united states. It is a stupid geographical bias. You are better than that, all of you. Excepting Werner. He's stuck in that prison. lol
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Stewart Johnson
climber
lake forest
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Jun 16, 2012 - 10:11am PT
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well jim youre not quite there,lots of crags where i live that no one goes
to. i think youre idea of california is stuck in the southern half of the state. cheers
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kaholatingtong
Trad climber
the green triangle, cali
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Jun 16, 2012 - 10:44am PT
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jims right. no good climbing left in kali. move along.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Jun 16, 2012 - 11:02am PT
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interesting that this thread should be bumped. climbing around l.a. has become a delicate matter. conversations with fellow climbers, land managers, property owners, nonclimbing outdoorsy people--all cause for careful diplomacy.
"the po-lice at the port of entry say
you're number fourteen thousand for today ..." -- woody guthrie
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PeteC
climber
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Jun 16, 2012 - 01:18pm PT
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Donini, starting pointless negative threads reflects poorly on you.
At least people are out climbing. You would think you would be happy to see them embracing the sport which you yourself love.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
merced, california
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Jun 16, 2012 - 02:04pm PT
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Hell yes it got bumped. Donini can't get away with saying _ about my home state with no sass back. CO great big mtns may be more numerous and have more overall height. But they are in the same fecking country. So let's forget the regional BS, okay? It is kind of a stupid thread, now I think on it, but it cleared the air a bit.
How many more route possibilities are there on TP of Dana? Variations? Looks like Jenga in stasis in the pix. Wish I had been along with bBonebrake on that FA. Vitaliy, I still say that TR was four-stars. All I am hearing is whining about the approach, guys. Not gud. Go to Courtwright if that's a biggie.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
merced, california
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Jun 16, 2012 - 02:08pm PT
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RA, we could go up there and trundle the place flat, if we took big enough levers. But the ITF, man, gotta think about your membership and the oath. Scuse me. Heat of the moment. I'd likely get lost on the approach, even having been on the summit once!
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