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Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Apr 4, 2009 - 12:10am PT
To further illustrate Al's point, here's a graph from another thread:


It suggests to me at least that there is probably a lot of missing stuff after 1994. But there may have also been a peak of new route activity with the "Tucker Tech, et al, late-1980s" routes.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Apr 4, 2009 - 12:40am PT
we actually discussed a lot of this on another thread...

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=207088

someone mentioned that the banning of Bosch drilling may have put a crimp in the route production ending Tucker's spurt...

martygarrison

Trad climber
The Great North these days......
Apr 4, 2009 - 12:42am PT
Not a fa, but I put those two quarter inch bolts at the top of the first pitch of sunnyside bench jam crack in 72. Does this count?
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Apr 4, 2009 - 03:40am PT
hey there zombi... say, thanks very much for the share, it was fun to see my brothers name there, me being new at learning all this stuff...

say, if you had NOT shared, why, i would not have known that my brother mark had done 40 FA routes, in the first place...

it is interesting to know, history wise and as to the interest of learning more about each man, and climber, as you learn these things (in this case, for me knowing more about my brother)...

this give me a bit more understanding to my brother, and his passion, his search for adventure, and his curiosity and his tries at tackling new things and his tenacity...

EVEN as it does for all those that know the other climbers and learn what they TOO have done... (hopefully to it gets folks to want to try their own hand at new adventures, too) ... :)

ps:
say, it was very fun to see merry's name and that she had done one too.... we learn so much about folks here on supertopo...
thanks so very much for the share....


*sure hope that when mark is not so busy, that he can share all this stuff with me, being that i was in texas, and never got to share in the stories of adventure...






**oh my... say, sure hope i have perhaps 40 "quotes" or "insights" from my novels that are kind of like "fa"s to be of help to someone, so that my life may give a worthy trail to those that come after me, sometime, down the ol' trail of life....


edit:
here's a salute to all those climbers... and to all the folks that are outthere rescueing climbers, as well, so that their families can continue to love and enjoy them.... :)
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Apr 30, 2009 - 03:44am PT
I think I have an improved "Hall of Fame" for FAs and FFAs. I restored Ed's # of pitches field to my version of the Yosemite route list, and used it to add up number of pitches per person and number of "points" (was grade x stars). This is better than raw number of routes per person. This points game still has some major flaws:
 number of pitches is often wrong for the new routes, and for several old ones (it assigns "1" pitch to routes where a count is not given)
 average pitch grade should multiply stars, not maximum pitch grade
 people who did FAs with aid get points based on the current free grade
 people who have many unpublished routes are still undercounted

Here it is - I think it's a definite improvement over simply counting routes, but still has a ways to go.

First Ascent Totals by Person

Points # of Routes # Pitches Ave.Points Name

5611 89 497 63.0 Jim Bridwell
4413 39 331 113.2 Royal Robbins
3674 73 286 50.3 Walt Shipley
3246 72 402 45.1 Eric Kohl
3239 28 257 115.7 Yvon Chouinard
3144 41 201 76.7 Ron Kauk
2954 34 249 86.9 Warren Harding
2949 49 257 60.2 Chuck Pratt
2760 58 171 47.6 Kevin Worrall
2743 38 201 72.2 Frank Sacherer
2658 25 145 106.3 John Long
2629 46 179 57.2 Ray Jardine
2597 152 236 17.1 Tucker Tech
2505 35 216 71.6 Dale Bard
2277 26 144 87.6 Scott Cosgrove
2093 24 238 87.2 Charlie Porter
2084 42 142 49.6 Mark Chapman
1808 64 132 28.3 Rick Cashner
1726 30 93 57.5 John Bachar
1681 36 93 46.7 Bruce Morris
1666 5 132 333.2 Tommy Caldwell
1643 29 92 56.7 George Meyers
1587 21 147 75.6 Tom Frost
1585 39 109 40.6 Werner Braun
1494 48 109 31.1 Kevin Fosburg
1426 26 122 54.8 Galen Rowell
1424 24 105 59.3 Sean Jones
1420 23 119 61.7 Chris Fredericks
1414 19 131 74.4 John Middendorf
1361 24 103 56.7 Bill Price
1358 77 123 17.6 Don Reid
1350 27 77 50.0 Al Swanson
1255 18 98 69.7 Glen Denny
1248 12 113 104.0 Layton Kor
1223 31 116 39.5 Bob Kamps
1209 35 123 34.5 Eric Gabel
1182 43 91 27.5 Dimitri Barton
1180 15 87 78.7 Dan Dingle
1175 36 88 32.6 Clint Cummins
1170 24 89 48.8 Steve Roper
1164 23 65 50.6 Dave Schultz
1159 26 89 44.6 Mark Powell
1127 40 111 28.2 Rick Sylvester
1101 32 64 34.4 Chris Cantwell
1075 27 65 39.8 Ed Barry
1004 45 83 22.3 Dan McDevitt
953 11 53 86.6 Roger Breedlove
942 30 70 31.4 Mark Klemens
928 23 63 40.3 Kurt Smith
870 22 73 39.5 Wally Reed
833 47 80 17.7 Cade Lloyd
803 14 51 57.4 Joel Ager
782 45 58 17.4 Ken Ariza
715 32 73 22.3 Ken Yager
709 44 63 16.1 Jerry Anderson
704 22 58 32.0 Ron Skelton
693 33 55 21.0 Sue McDevitt
685 30 73 22.8 Bob Steed
620 18 44 34.4 Jim Donini
608 31 53 19.6 Pete Takeda
482 13 29 37.1 Chris Falkenstein
471 31 39 15.2 Grant Hiskes
464 18 34 25.8 Barry Bates
456 9 46 50.7 Bev Johnson
439 3 42 146.3 Beth Rodden
435 9 49 48.3 Jim Pettigrew
427 11 26 38.8 John Yablonski
419 11 38 38.1 Tom Higgins
373 9 22 41.4 Peter Croft
347 20 26 17.4 Lynnea Anderson
316 10 21 31.6 Loyd Price
296 19 30 15.6 Norman Boles
290 14 30 20.7 Ed Hartouni
268 8 28 33.5 Linda Jarit
260 10 29 26.0 David Whitelaw
225 10 18 22.5 Peter Haan
200 15 17 13.3 Ray Olson
166 10 11 16.6 Joe Hedge
98 5 12 19.6 Erin Takagishi
76 6 7 12.7 Brad Young
50 4 8 12.5 Jeff Scheuerell

(there are many people who did lots of FAs who are not in this table, inclusion is somewhat random....)
the kid

Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
Apr 30, 2009 - 12:03pm PT
kurt smith- 54 between valley and meadows.

shipoopoi

Big Wall climber
oakland
Apr 30, 2009 - 12:19pm PT
well, i did at least 6 fa's in the valley, including 2 el cap routes, but liked the kid, most my new activity was in the meadows(28 new routes on medlicott alone). shipoopoi
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