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Moof
Big Wall climber
A cube at my soul sucking job in Oregon
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Stupid food chain...
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franky
climber
Davis, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 8, 2009 - 01:44pm PT
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you're right! the smelt is LITTLE!! to hell with it!!!
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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apogee
climber
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Wes! Where are you? Post up!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Smelt schmelt!
We need better water resources with our expanding population. You want water and veggies?
The smelt will be fine. Just a bunch of fish-huggers making noise.
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franky
climber
Davis, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 8, 2009 - 02:53pm PT
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How does one get "better water resources"?
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corniss chopper
Mountain climber
san jose, ca
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California just needs to build some new dams
to catch and store more of the run off from the Sierra.
Right now we're short on optimal storage capacity.
If we had enough the farmers and smelt would be fine.
Blame the Sierra Club and its evil minions for
causing this by opposing all new dam construction.
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dirtbag
climber
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Hey Ignorant Fools:
They ARE NOT sardines.
But hey, isn't fun to opine about something you know nothing about, except what Hannity told you?
The truth is that the Central Valley rivers, especially the Delta, have been ass f*#ked completely by overuse of water, largely for farming. The San Joaquin river doesn't even flow to the sea anymore, several species of fish are near extinction, and municipal water supplies are continually threatened. Farmland also faces long term threats from salinization and a decreasing water table from overuse.
The only great thing about threads about this is that right wing dipshits are easily identified. And, some of you guys really are short-sighted ignorant dipshits.
Capice?
Edit: Corniss you are a buffoon.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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The San Joaquin river doesn't even flow to the sea anymore, several species of fish are near extinction, and municipal water supplies are continually threatened.
The San Joaquin does flow to the ocean, albeit, through the delta.
Hmmm, San Fran/Marin's water supply is never threatened, I wonder why that is?
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dirtbag
climber
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"How does one get better water resources? Through better management of water, whether that be screens on pumps, dams, or resevoir creation."
How about better water conservation and gradually eliminating wasteful water-intensive farming in a semi-arid environment? Every time you erect a dam, you ruin a river. The right wing solution to every natural resource shortage, whether oil, water, or lumber, is to EXTRACT MORE.
Are you guys really so lacking in vision?
It's shameful that so many people are quick to throw their natural heritage under bus for short-term GREED.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Dirt, I'm not saying dams are always the only answer. They're just one option in the 'toolbox' of many tools.
The right wing solution to every natural resource shortage, whether oil, water, or lumber, is to EXTRACT MORE.
That's untrue and you know it...
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dirtbag
climber
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Bluering, it is true and you know it.
"Drill baby, drill." Need I say more?
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
In the mountains... somewhere...
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How about we abolish watering lawns in california, at least in the southern half of the state. How about we abolish growing cotton in california. How about we build a damn pipeline from washington to socal. There are lots of solutions, just no politicians with the balls to implement them.
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corniss chopper
Mountain climber
san jose, ca
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Policy is that the water levels in the dams have to be lowered
as a precaution for flood control i.e. the unexpected heavy
runoff. This water is wasted every year and just flows into the ocean.
If there was optimal storage capacity (new dams built)to capture
this yearly release we'd still have the ability to prevent
unexpected flooding and have plenty of water
for smelt and farmers.
Several more San Luis type reservoirs.
Would not have to be up in the Sierra's.
Just dam up some grassy foothill valleys
near the existing reservoirs to quadruple
storage capacity.
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guyman
Trad climber
Moorpark, CA.
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""The right wing solution to every natural resource shortage, whether oil, water, or lumber, is to EXTRACT MORE.""
You almost got it correct:
The right solution to every natural resource shortage, whether oil, water, or lumber, is to EXTRACT MORE.
Pretty simple and ez.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Has anybody considered building Smelt Ladders around the pumping stations?
Smelt ladders could only cost a fraction of what salmon ladders cost.
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