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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 21, 2009 - 03:02pm PT
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In the recent thread on Laid To Rest put up 4 days ago some of you wanted a better look at the back of Half Dome. So this is what I came up with, scrounging around my files, the internet, and so forth. It's the best I could do without buying big-assed aerial files. I think I will go up there myself soon and do some super hi-res images also and report back. I need the exercise to say the least.
In the images below, it becomes awfully clear how Half Dome really isn’t a half dome or half-onion, so to speak but a disturbingly complex weird summit loaded with changes and many features. I think its back and shoulders are quite a bit more interesting than the far more familiar northwest face. Rock quality too, obviously. And finally, just how creative all these routes really are back there. And that there is surely more climbing there.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Apr 21, 2009 - 03:05pm PT
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Holy!!!!
That is a nice lookin' shoulder.
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TKingsbury
Trad climber
MT
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Apr 21, 2009 - 03:18pm PT
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Cool shots!
Have you checked out the xrez stuff?
http://www.xrez.com/yose_proj/Yose_result.html
There's a decent partial view of the backside from the 'quarter domes viewpoint', and you can zoom WAY in...
a few screen shots from it...
crazy looking features!
Cheers!
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Jingy
Social climber
Flatland, Ca
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Apr 21, 2009 - 03:19pm PT
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Cool shots....
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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Apr 21, 2009 - 03:25pm PT
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Nice Peter. As you say way more interesting than the standard shot from Glacier Point.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 21, 2009 - 03:26pm PT
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As Tkingsbury says, go to that link. You will need to be running a Mac intel or a windows machine to use Silverlight (microsoft).
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Apr 21, 2009 - 03:45pm PT
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Just one incredible looking piece of rock.
Thanks, Peter!!!!
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Apr 21, 2009 - 04:06pm PT
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Good stuff. Here are some things I've found and occasionally guessed lines on, mostly posted on the Southern Belle thread:
Ben Montoya's photo (before my graffiti)
Peter, if you do go up there and get some higher-res shots from some of these angles, I'd like to get copies, to see if I can pick out the features on the Southern Belle topo from where it clears the arch to where it intersects the Harding-Rowell route. The hope is to make a more accurate topo.
And if you really need the exercise, check with Sean - it sounds like there are some ropes to carry down...
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 21, 2009 - 04:22pm PT
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You know, looking through all these accumulated images, it IS clear we need higher-res files on it. Most of our images are stunning but not quite high enough resolution to really get the facts, especially if we are going to get some more routes up there and especially for the purpose of recording what we do have currently, as you have been doing Clint. I will get the files to you as well as put links up here---the images will be gigantic and can't be hosted by Photobucket I have to assume, but can link out of my sites. I think to do this right i will have to spend a couple of days up there too for lighting and for vantage points.
I can get this done in the next month or so, I think. V. funny about becoming a mule for the cleanup crew but you are right, Clint. I should. It would be interesting getting to Dougie's incredibly productive friend Sean. You know, I have known Doug Robinson for forty years....
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
the greasewood ghetto
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Apr 21, 2009 - 05:07pm PT
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Get CF back there - - Doesn't he shoot Gigapan (Xrez) images himself , or has connections with the photogs ?
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GDavis
Trad climber
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Apr 21, 2009 - 05:17pm PT
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wow karma is steep...
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Double D
climber
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Apr 21, 2009 - 08:25pm PT
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B'chen!
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Apr 21, 2009 - 09:34pm PT
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QITNL,
Very nice. I downloaded the higher resolution copies from your website. They show some of the features I wasn't able to make out in any other photos - nice afternoon light. Could I get the full resolution ones, too?
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mongrel
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Apr 21, 2009 - 09:57pm PT
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What an incredibly beautiful piece of rock - so many of them are in the Valley. And as always I find Clint's graffiti-ed photos very interesting but have to wonder about one thing: there is some documentary value to a "more accurate topo" of Southern Belle, but who among us has the ability and guts to make use of it, eh?? I have always thought, just judging from the written accounts (and even more so from the ST thread) that was one of the most incredible bits of climbing ever done anywhere in N. America, ever.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 21, 2009 - 10:29pm PT
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Mongrel, it was and is: "one the most beautfiful pieces of rock". We are celebrating it here on this thread and I am hoping that we can get more talented climbers thinking about addressing the awesome remaining challenges back there. In a few ways, it is just like the old days, 50's-60's. Most aren't getting the scent however.
When we jump grades (hardness, giant-ness, riskines, remoteness, whatever) there are these historic , threshold climbs that are semaphores in our history. Southern Belle is certainly one of ours. One of the most important, if we take a look at the future. So are the first half of Growing Up and Laid to Rest.
So my point is that perhaps only one or two of us here will ever be up there, but such is the case with most climbing and mountaineering writing. If accounts are important enough to be published in book form or article form, they are going to be desperate. And the FA party brings it home to us sharing the experience---not the climb itself---the experience. Making a community. Hopefully a good community.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
the greasewood ghetto
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Apr 21, 2009 - 10:55pm PT
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Has the right-leaning arch (center) been done ? That could be the start to the next independent line .
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Apr 21, 2009 - 11:22pm PT
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mongrel,
> there is some documentary value to a "more accurate topo" of Southern Belle, but who among us has the ability and guts to make use of it, eh??
True, it would be unlikely to be put to actual use much. It might help someone find the few bolts that are up there. And it might show the runouts better so people have a better idea what to expect.
I have looked at a large number of topos for routes and never climbed them. One of my friends used to call it "shadow climbing" - trying to imagine myself up there and thinking about what it would be like.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 21, 2009 - 11:24pm PT
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No Blotchy, but it really isn't relevant. The potentials above dominates the initial lines below.
We here are going to get one hell of a good look back there.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Apr 22, 2009 - 03:08am PT
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Wow, Joe - thanks. Those are really nice.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 22, 2009 - 09:55am PT
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God QINTL. Your links work of course. And thanks for elucidating the QITNL handle. These images are great!!. In Photoshop at 200% they are still useful. Here is the main one back atcha, tweaked a bit.
and here is the other one, also tweaked. These files btw are about 1.6 meg. I think we need even more hi-res ones so we can go out to 500% or more. I can do this, have the equipment and will be needing the hike this coming month.
This last image really is rich. You can see all the stuff going on over at Laid To Rest and Call of the Wild too which is v. cool.
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