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martygarrison
Trad climber
atlanta
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Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 17, 2008 - 03:38pm PT
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This thread could stir things up. I recently read the TR on the winter Zodiac. The description of getting dumped on by the falls, the freezing night out. There were similar descriptions on the Trip TR. In the early to mid seventies I did the obligatory El Cap walls however frankly always hated them. I remember on NA wall just being scared to death while standing on pins, and then if I wasn't leading, jugging just seemed like hard work. My partner and I had a conversation somewhere high up at the end of the day as to why we do these things. Mind you I was young and he was trying to make a worldwide name for himself (Denz). We came up with ego, nothing more or less. I read these trip reports of folks who are on their 20th El Cap route and know it has to be something else. For me I always was so charged up about a long free climb, grade V free, or frankly just cragging at the cookie or arch rock or wherever. I love the movement. The aid climbing always seemed just like work. So, explain to me, a guy who hates standing on a pin that might pop at any moment.....What drives you big wall folks to keep coming back?
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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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Mar 17, 2008 - 04:09pm PT
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Something about the fact that the pin might pop at any moment exites and intrigues me. It is engaing.
Other then that I really like the atmosphere and exposure up there. I'm content to sit on my ledge or belay seat just staring into the void for hours.
Something about the hard work it takes to achieve the summit and make it back to the car intact is great. The suffering makes me feel alive.
Also the connection you make with your partner/s after achieving a bigwall goal is unmatched by any other experience.
I also like to rally fast and light free climbs too...just a different mindset.
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aaronj
Big Wall climber
injured reserve
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Mar 17, 2008 - 04:42pm PT
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i like big rocks
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bringmedeath
climber
la la land
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Mar 17, 2008 - 05:25pm PT
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because the talking tree told me to.
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atchafalaya
climber
Babylon
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Mar 17, 2008 - 05:31pm PT
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Because there are spaces of time in between the wall routes I have done where I forget about the suffering, the BS, the complete boredom involved, and the fact that others are running around on beaches drinking cocktails. Its takes being back up on another wall to remember those details.
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bringmedeath
climber
la la land
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Mar 17, 2008 - 05:39pm PT
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The pin will probably not pop if u are standing on it already... that is why i test to death and climb slower than a sloth smokin the crystal.
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Mar 17, 2008 - 05:47pm PT
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To be in a place where nothing else matter but now. It makes me aware of how my life is not an abstract concept. Instead I am highly aware of how my life is the blood pumping inside of me, beating wild, connected, dependent, and a part of every move I make.
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Euroford
Trad climber
chicago
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Mar 17, 2008 - 05:49pm PT
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because its the best way to pack the most climbing into your vacation time.
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tomtom
Social climber
Seattle, Wa
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Mar 17, 2008 - 06:09pm PT
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Vertical backpacking is much more entertaining than horizontal backpacking.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Mar 17, 2008 - 06:09pm PT
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I hate wall climbing.
I can't wait to get back up there...
I always likened aid climbing to an exercise in fear. In lesser part, it's a test of your ability to engineer your way up the stone.
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spyork
Social climber
A prison of my own creation
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Mar 17, 2008 - 06:13pm PT
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becuz I'm crazy.
Wait, that doesn't differentiate very well here.
The views are incredible. You get to savor the views when wall climbing. Free climbing something big you must rush to get done.
I like sleeping on a wall far above the maddening crowd. It is more peaceful for me than a 5 star hotel. Not that I can afford a 5 star hotel.
Would I solo a wall? maybe, but I dont like climbing everything 2 or 3 times, takes alot longer.
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Brutus of Wyde
climber
Old Climbers' Home, Oakland CA
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Mar 17, 2008 - 07:10pm PT
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I am enchanted with the improbable.
Brutus
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Mar 17, 2008 - 07:12pm PT
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talking tree, also.
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kev
climber
CA
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Mar 17, 2008 - 07:18pm PT
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The talking tree told me that I would like to hammer heads. Well the tree was right!
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yo
climber
The Eye of the Snail
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Mar 17, 2008 - 07:29pm PT
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Haven't heard from the tree. Did a wall with a sloth on crystal, though, and he yapped the whole damn time.
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Fletcher
Trad climber
Varied locales along the time and space continuum
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Mar 17, 2008 - 07:31pm PT
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So that explains the tree that's talking to me right now! Now I know what to do.
Fletch
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 17, 2008 - 07:39pm PT
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I used to love doing walls with pins, it was a great art stacking and nesting them. The sweet "ping" of a bomber pin rang through the air.
Now!
The world is taken over by the "Serria club climbers" and all their fuked up rules.
Blah .....
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Anastasia
climber
Not here
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Mar 17, 2008 - 07:40pm PT
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I told you to stay away from that Aspen!
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Mar 17, 2008 - 08:01pm PT
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he he, he said "angle."
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Gagner
climber
Boulder
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Mar 17, 2008 - 08:02pm PT
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Location, location, Location....
Paul
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