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KuntryKlimber

Mountain climber
Rock Hill, SC
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 6, 2008 - 10:48am PT
This is a youtube video of the proper usage of the death triangle in order to kill oneself.

DEATH TRIANGLE
mojede

Trad climber
Butte, America
Mar 6, 2008 - 10:57am PT
"We call these, bomb-proof bolts."

No, WE ficking don't.
KuntryKlimber

Mountain climber
Rock Hill, SC
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2008 - 11:03am PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHBdRxNduIM&feature=related

he strikes agayn. apparently this doof has a couple videos ranging from poor to dangerous.
scuffy b

climber
up the coast from Woodson
Mar 6, 2008 - 11:06am PT
The triangle this guy sets up could hardly be called a death
triangle. With his geometry there is insignificant load
multiplication.
All triangles are not equal.
KuntryKlimber

Mountain climber
Rock Hill, SC
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2008 - 11:07am PT
yea but why would you teach a triangle? or why use it at all? and why doesn't he use two biners on the tie in?

EDIT: im gonna disagree with you on the geometry too. he's got almost an equalateral triangle which is signif. load increase.
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Mar 6, 2008 - 11:10am PT
But wait! There's more! He has a whole section over at, uh-hum, "Expert Village."

http://www.expertvillage.com/video-series/3173_rock-climbing-anchors.htm
KuntryKlimber

Mountain climber
Rock Hill, SC
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2008 - 11:15am PT
Expert: Mike Braeuer lives in Austin, TX where he has climbed for 10 years. He runs Climb On Adventures, a guide service for fathers and sons. Read More

his guide service should be called fatherless sons. am i right?? burn.
72hw

Trad climber
Hollyweird, CA
Mar 6, 2008 - 11:18am PT
I was shown how to rig this anchor when I first started building my own, however, it was rightly identified as one to never employ.

Maybe reclassify these as comedy clips if not removed entirely.

Just a thought.

EDIT: Over on the 'Expert Village' site he has a vid called "Learn tips on how to repel safely in the sport of rock climbing in this free video clip on extreme sports."

Well, he successfully repelled me safely away from his tutalige!
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Mar 6, 2008 - 11:23am PT
He's living proof that you don't have to be good to survive climbing.

It's so easy to do a V setup, you'd think in ten years he'd have figured out what MOST climbers learn in the first 3 months or less.

Write to expert village and complain.
TradIsGood

Chalkless climber
the Gunks end of the country
Mar 6, 2008 - 11:25am PT
I am sure we have all rapped on a "Death Triangle".

:>)
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
Mar 6, 2008 - 11:34am PT
His opposite and opposed carabiner demo is wrong too. He puts the biners on with gates and gate hinges facing the same way, then rotates one 180 degrees.

Apparently in ten years he's never encountered either book or person who could show him the correct way to do opposite and opposed biners.

Totally clueless.
KuntryKlimber

Mountain climber
Rock Hill, SC
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2008 - 11:43am PT
all his videos are subpar id say. he doesn't mention back up knots on his rapping vid and why would you use biners on the chains every time but not use two on the tie in?
graniteclimber

Trad climber
Nowhere
Mar 6, 2008 - 12:05pm PT
Expertvillage.com should change their URL to Idiots.com an Climb On Adventures should rename itself Die On Adventures

Mike Braeuer is an idiot, and not just because he built a death triangle. He starts of his lecture by telling us that the anchor needs to be SRENE and says that the NE stands for No Extension. And then he proceeds to build an anchor with extension.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
Nowhere
Mar 6, 2008 - 12:08pm PT
Mike Braeuer doesn't rap or rappel. In his own words, he "repels"

http://www.expertvillage.com/video-series/3173_rock-climbing-anchors.htm
Count Chocula

climber
Choclovania
Mar 6, 2008 - 12:10pm PT
you could also email or call the idiot himself at

mikebraeuer@gmail.com

(512) 680-9610
(814) 680-9610 Fax
4701 Staggerbrush # 826
Austin, Texas 78749

from his website

"Mike Braeuer has been rock and mountain climbing for 8 years. Some of his adventures include climbing Mt. Kilimanjaro (19,340 ft.) through Kenya and Tanzania, Africa, as well as free climbing in Golden, Boulder, and El Dorado Canyons in Colorado. His numerous trips to Enchanted Rock and countless climbs locally around the Austin Greenbelt provide the experience necessary for a fun filled and SAFE trip. "

and from a testimonial:

"...There's nothing like staring fear in the face and climbing higher to call the man out of a boy."


raymond phule

climber
Mar 6, 2008 - 12:12pm PT
I liked his sliding x. Huge extension. One locking biner at the power point but 2 locking biners on each bolt...
graniteclimber

Trad climber
Nowhere
Mar 6, 2008 - 12:19pm PT
I just sent him an email.
Domingo

Trad climber
El Portal, CA
Mar 6, 2008 - 12:26pm PT
Isn't Kilimanjaro a walk-up?

I think I'll email him as well.
Dick_Lugar

Trad climber
Indiana
Mar 6, 2008 - 12:47pm PT
If he's an expert..then I'm a superduper expert. Suggest moving his video from "Youtube" to "YouTOOL". Amazing.
KuntryKlimber

Mountain climber
Rock Hill, SC
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2008 - 02:00pm PT
his equalized anchor video shows

a. a slung boulder that appears to be basketball sized
b. the girth hitch on the tree set to cinch right on the water knot
c. 1 tie in biner again
d. 2 overhands right on top of eachother. never seen it done but it has to weaken the setup, no? if nothing else it's ugly as hell.

that he's alive is a testament to the bolting in texas. it wouldn't be as bad if he wasn't guiding little kids.

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