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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 17, 2007 - 03:03pm PT
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I was curious why Blitzo started another self-portrait thread, when one already exists.
That would be the thread with the all-time highest number of posts, entitled
Who the hell are you people?... Supertopian pictures...
Perhaps he missed it somehow? Anyway, I thought I would attempt to load the entire
thread to see what would happen (I was bored, and I'm rather easily amused).
On a DSL connection, the thread started loading at a steady 165 KB (1320 kb).
I started scrolling through the thread as it loaded. After several minutes, I got
a beach-ball as RAM was quickly being gobbled up (2 Ghz iMac with 2 GB RAM).
Although I didn't time it, it felt like close to 10 minutes. I saved the thread as a
web-archive, and did a Get Info on it. Here it is:
and the Finder view:
Note some of the pics failed to load - perhaps the links are no good anymore?
The iMac currently has 1074 MB of RAM being used, with 974 MB free, with just
Safari browser open. Needless to say, many of the pics in that thread are definately
knott optimized for the web, which accounts for the monstrous 115 MB.
Anyway, I think I'll give the old thread a bump for good measure...
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=345899&tn=0&mr=0
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L
climber
A chartreuse glider in an azure blue sky...
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Oct 17, 2007 - 03:14pm PT
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HK,
Don't you work for a living?
Just curious...:-)
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 17, 2007 - 03:27pm PT
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OK cool
I just just tried it on my kick ass windows machine that puts shame to those Macs :-)
Hahahaha I agree, what a ram eater loading that whole thread all at once.
Edit: I will now go do the Nose, I'll be back in a couple of hours.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 17, 2007 - 03:32pm PT
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Nice, Werner - did you time it? I'm impressed that your Windows POS did knott crash...
And how long does it take to run to the top of The Nose?
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Oct 17, 2007 - 03:36pm PT
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It would be cool if we could search that thread to find a picture of someone who just posted something interesting, or said they'd be visiting our home crag, or whatever. Given the ST setup that's not practical to do with a thread of that size, though. Takes too long loading all 105mb and (on my system anyway) gets me nowhere near the right page. Any solutions?
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monolith
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Oct 17, 2007 - 03:51pm PT
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If you have FireFox Chiloe, and probably the others as well but in a different way, you can go into Tools/Options//Contents and disable "load images automatically".
Edit: After page loads then search page with browser search, then right click on any image link to view.
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 17, 2007 - 04:01pm PT
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Dave, here's a snapshot of my cpe wireless client logging the download.
I started on my windblows machine at 1200 MB ram and when I finished it said 600 MB ram left. I didn't time it but wasn't more than a few minutes.
When I build my new lintel core duo screamer this winter you and me will have computer races. Mac against windows blows.
Cheers bro .....
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mcKbill
climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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Oct 17, 2007 - 04:04pm PT
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looks like an earthquake thingee there
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 17, 2007 - 04:18pm PT
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Monolith - even if you turn images off, the 1237- post thread will take a long time to load,
and would take FOREVER on a dialup. The problem is that searching brings up the entire thread,
instead of just the relevant 20-post section. I have suggested to Randy
that it would be great if this could be fixed, but so far it has knott. Here's to hoping...
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DonC
climber
CA
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Oct 17, 2007 - 04:35pm PT
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I'm on an iMac and just clicked on the "who the hell are you people..." thread and the first picture loaded within 3 seconds. At the point I could scroll through all the pics no problem.
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TKingsbury
Trad climber
MT
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Oct 17, 2007 - 04:36pm PT
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The problem is not from the topic list page, but rather the search page...
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TradIsGood
Half fast climber
the Gunks end of the country
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Oct 17, 2007 - 04:41pm PT
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Hardman,
Try your diagnostics even on fiber between 3AM and 6AM Pacific time. Even the first page may time out.
And if you are lucky enough to be able to post a topic or edit a topic, there is a decent chance you will get a double post.
I do knott know whether this is an ST specific problem, database backup or whatever, or pagead2 google problem. But I would have to bet that it is ST problem.
This problem has been around for a couple years now. BTW, you might as well forget about searching working then.
The best way to search supertopo is to not use ST search. Use google search-site function instead. Blows away ST search!
I do knott remember whether it brings up just the abridged version of the thread. Try it if you like.
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monolith
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Oct 17, 2007 - 04:43pm PT
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Hardman, is Chiloe on a dial-up?
I was not trying to solve dial-up problems.
Turning off autoload makes the thread load many times faster, dial-up or not. Then it's easy to search the page with browser functions.
Something you can do now, is much better then waiting for the final solution which may never come.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 17, 2007 - 04:45pm PT
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The same thing happens when you edit a post. It loads the whole thread, instead of just the
20-post section that contains the post. It would be great if this could be addressed as well...
Edit: Monolith - on my dialup at home, a 120-post thread takes at least 30 seconds
to load with images turned off. Now imagine how long it would take for a thread 10 times that size to load...
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monolith
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Oct 17, 2007 - 04:51pm PT
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I'll ask again, is Chiloe on a dialup?
Just think how long it would take with autoloading images.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 17, 2007 - 04:52pm PT
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Is it relevent whether he's on dialup?
It takes forever either way!
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TradIsGood
Half fast climber
the Gunks end of the country
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Oct 17, 2007 - 04:54pm PT
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Is loading a linear function of the number of posts when you are on dialup?
I think Knott exactly....
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monolith
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Oct 17, 2007 - 04:54pm PT
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Of course it is Hardman. I'm hesitant to touch that thread on a dsl modem. Loading it without images took very little time.
Then it was extremely easy to search using the Firefox search capability, since it is all on one page.
Edit: When you find what you want, you can right click on the pic link to get the image.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 17, 2007 - 04:58pm PT
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OK - fair enough. But try it on a dialup sometime and you'll see what I mean...
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