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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 27, 2018 - 02:13am PT
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The two Koreas kiss and make up.
And a pledge to rid the peninsula of Nukes.
The prospect of the Donald getting involved was apparently too scary for both sides..
But... wasn’t this a United Nations action? (NSC 68)
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 27, 2018 - 07:50am PT
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Peace with a moron evil warmongering bitch like Nikky Haley as US ambassador at the helm to throw a wrench into it?
You are dreaming .....
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Apr 27, 2018 - 07:57am PT
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Damn, Veterans Today must hate Nikki Haley as well as McCain.
Veterans Today and Nikki Haley
VT and Brawn will have quite the celebration when McCain dies.
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wallonawall
Sport climber
Virginia
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Apr 27, 2018 - 08:02am PT
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Hope this whole thing works out, kinda hard to focus with the threat of nuclear war hanging over the entire continental Us.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Apr 27, 2018 - 08:05am PT
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Peace in Korea... now who could hate on that??
Come on TACO folks ... post up the hate, keep it real now boys. I’ll be back later today after I return from climbing.
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dirtbag
climber
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Apr 27, 2018 - 08:08am PT
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It would be great, but while there are a lot of unhatched eggs, there is also a lot of chicken counting going on.
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10b4me
Social climber
Lida Junction
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Apr 27, 2018 - 08:10am PT
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Because I don't know, would this bring about a united Korea?
If this comes to pass, I think it's less about nukes, and more about economic incentives.
Maybe Kim Jung Un heard rumblings of a coup d' etat.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Apr 27, 2018 - 08:29am PT
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I hope it's genuine, too, but think all involved,including NK, should take Teddy's advice (I think it was he), and Speak softly and carry a big stick.
Just in case, because to me, it seems that this sudden turn towards peace is a little too sudden, all things considered.
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Apr 27, 2018 - 12:07pm PT
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http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/41928-correcting-history-five-things-no-one-wants-to-say-about-korea
Above is a interesting perspective on Korea.
Both the leaders are afraid that Trump will do something impulsive, leading to the deaths of many of their people, so they have a common interest in preventing this from happening. Also, it is beginning to dawn on Kim that radiation isn't good for you. GOOGLE "The Downwinders" and you will see what it did for people in Nevada who lived too close to the test sites. One person said they kept going to their HS reunion and most people seemed to be dying in their mid to late 50's.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Apr 27, 2018 - 12:23pm PT
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In a confrontation, there's a definite advantage to your opponent thinking you're crazy.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2018 - 12:39pm PT
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In a confrontation, there's a definite advantage to your opponent thinking you're crazy.
That was my method in high school.
Mostly worked.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Apr 27, 2018 - 12:46pm PT
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How do you think I retired undefeated? I may not have been the craziest person in the room when trouble broke out in the bars I worked, but I certainly wanted everyone to think I was.
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Mike Honcho
Trad climber
Glenwood Springs, CO
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Apr 27, 2018 - 01:03pm PT
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Does this mean I have to delete M*A*S*H from my DVR?
That was awesome.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 27, 2018 - 01:08pm PT
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mguzzy for the win.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Apr 27, 2018 - 01:11pm PT
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Any peace in Korea will be a charade as long as Kim remains in power. The real victims are not us or the South Koreans, it is the North Koreans that are paying the price. Kim is not giving up power, or the nukes that keep him in power.
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Apr 27, 2018 - 02:26pm PT
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My dad on the RT getting ready to go to Korea to fight! 1950, he made it back alive and is still here living well!
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Apr 27, 2018 - 02:59pm PT
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I hope it's genuine.
It's not. Kim is not going to unify the peninsula even if he were to denuclearize. And he will only dismantle his ballistic missiles and warheads if he can exact a high enough price from the U.S., China, and Russia. Short of that, it's not going to happen.
To be optimistic necessarily means believing Donald and our military will be willing to pay whatever extortionate price Kim intends to collect.
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Trump
climber
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Apr 27, 2018 - 05:12pm PT
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It’s hard not to see it as a positive step, but I expect we have the skills to manage that.
Hopefully the high enough price we have to pay is less than the price the North Korean people have been paying. To have both Trump and Kim redeemed as good leaders for their respective people would be pretty impressive, but if needed, I expect we’ll have the skills to avoid seeing that as well.
The duck’s not all that prone to handing out lollipops, and it seems like neither Trump nor Kim are either. But if not handing out lollipops is what it takes to get to peace, well f*#k me dead, won’t that just piss all over my self-righteousness?
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Apr 27, 2018 - 07:16pm PT
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Dingus Milktoast:
A big distraction, signifying nothing beyond geopolitical maneuvers. My nationalistic fervor is not stoked by such fake fears. This was exactly my opinion.
However my friend (who has much better understanding of Koreans) believes that there is a chance that they have a deal:
South brings North to their standard of life and ensures peaceful retirement of Kim in exchange for North's nuclear and missile technology.
I doubt very much that US can prevent this from happening (if this is a real plan).
To me this is a scary sheet.
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