Yosemite Valley is a National Disgrace

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johnr9q

Sport climber
Sacramento, Ca
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 8, 2018 - 06:46am PT
!. Remove Private vehicles
2. Remove ALL structures
3. RV's, Lodging, Store, Restaurant outside the valley (Maybe Foresta)
4. Remove Electricity
5. Remove Sewers (Pit toilets only)
6. Add bike trails
7. Add hiking trails
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 8, 2018 - 06:53am PT
can't argue that. met this cute young woman who's been to tons and tons of Canadian and US NPs. She said Yosemite is by far the worst off of them all. Sad.
Byran

climber
Half Dome Village
Feb 8, 2018 - 07:03am PT
While you're waiting around for all that to happen you should try hiking out to Tehipite Valley. Or just go literally anywhere else in the Sierra Nevada. After a few summers of exploring you might even lose interest in "fixing" Yosemite.
pb

Sport climber
Sonora Ca
Feb 8, 2018 - 07:26am PT
an get rid of all that tat
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 8, 2018 - 07:35am PT
And close the roads, too! Make all the wall climbers have to walk in to El Capitan. That'll go over big, huh?
John M

climber
Feb 8, 2018 - 07:42am PT
great idea.. ( Knott ! )

Lets take all those people who wouldn't be able to hike into the valley, or even if they were able to, still wouldn't, yet want to see beautiful nature, and send them to all of the other parks that would still have roads.

And better yet, lets piss them off so that they don't want to support wild places, and lets turn those places over to the Trumps of the world who want to mine and drill those wild places into oblivion.

I don't have a problem with plumbing. Clean water reduces health problems.
Electricity.. don't have a problem with it if used wisely. I don't want street lights in Yosemite.

My solutions is a daily quota to reduce traffic. If you hike in, the quota doesn't apply to you. Hitchhike in if you want. Ride a bike, quota doesn't apply to you. But reduce the number of autos.

I would also increase public transportation.

seano

Mountain climber
none
Feb 8, 2018 - 07:59am PT
It's stereotypical California, i.e. not Barstow -- what do you expect besides overpriced and overcrowded? The Sierra are still a pretty nice range if you avoid Yosemite, Whitney, and the JMT.
Batrock

Trad climber
Burbank
Feb 8, 2018 - 08:00am PT
Ok, I'll get right that.
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Feb 8, 2018 - 08:00am PT
!. Remove Private vehicles
2. Remove ALL structures
3. RV's, Lodging, Store, Restaurant outside the valley (Maybe Foresta)
4. Remove Electricity
5. Remove Sewers (Pit toilets only)
6. Add bike trails
7. Add hiking trails

8. remove all the bolts from the rocks
9. remove all chalk marks
10. ban beer bottles, and cans.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 8, 2018 - 08:18am PT
"Sport climbing here, Boss!"
JerryA

Mountain climber
Sacramento,CA
Feb 8, 2018 - 08:33am PT
In the mid-1970s I participated along with a lot of others in the public input to the 1980 General management Plan (GMP ). Reduction in development and auto traffic was widely supported and has clearly not been achieved . I now think we should have proposed the return of the Yosemite Valley Railroad which ran from Merced to El Portal from 1907 to !945 & the removal of most permanent housing & facilities from the Valley to El Portal also among other things .
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 8, 2018 - 09:38am PT
I think you forgot to put ‘reintroduce Grizzlies’ on yer list.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Feb 8, 2018 - 10:16am PT
Once you get away from the Rushmore faces parking (which is at least more organized than it used to be plugged up with), it's not too bad. There's still some camping near the rocks and its kind of nice being able to walk up to climbs with a short approach. And the sport climping is silly, but fun.

Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Feb 8, 2018 - 10:36am PT
I had strong feelings of disgust for the Valley after driving down from the Meadows a couple of summers ago. My first visit in probably a dozen years. The had one lane blocked off for buses and emergency vehicles (yeah right). Pissed me off so much I started a thread here to gripe about it, only to have a surprising number of climbers here voice support for that set up. I still think it's lame to create that kind of impact in the rare event some fat tourist chokes on his ham sandwich and needs evac, but that's just my opinion.

Having said that, the Valley is crowded because it is amazing. Unlike any other place on earth. That's why everyone's there. If you don't like it, go on the off season, or hold your nose to get there and then walk 5 minutes from the most crowded spot and you'll find yourself alone. Life is complicated and full of contradictions. So is the Valley.
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Feb 8, 2018 - 10:37am PT
Yawn.

So stay home.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 8, 2018 - 11:00am PT
^^^^Borrowing a phrase I heard on the Taco, "Guffaw!"
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Feb 8, 2018 - 11:04am PT
!. Remove Private vehicles
2. Remove ALL structures
3. RV's, Lodging, Store, Restaurant outside the valley (Maybe Foresta)
4. Remove Electricity
5. Remove Sewers (Pit toilets only)
6. Add bike trails
7. Add hiking trails

Remove ALL humans from the park. That ought to take care of it.
WBraun

climber
Feb 8, 2018 - 11:07am PT
Another st00pid thread full of st00pid insane responses by spoiled brainwashed fools.

No wonder America is in the last place in the world .....

throwpie

Trad climber
Berkeley
Feb 8, 2018 - 11:15am PT
What a disgrace
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Feb 8, 2018 - 11:46am PT
Another st00pid thread full of st00pid insane responses by spoiled brainwashed fools.
and a cherry of foolish post on top....
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