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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 10, 2017 - 11:04am PT
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I'm tired , bored , and in constant pain and would like to retire so i could spend more time on supertopo...If any of you need a tax write off for charity feel free to pay pal me....rj
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Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
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Mar 10, 2017 - 11:34am PT
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Key to Sciatica is to knock it out with a huge dose of pain meds/anti-inflammatory drugs early if it's not induced because of structural issues (e.g. lower spine problems).
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Mar 10, 2017 - 12:07pm PT
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RJ,
Youtube
"Iliacus Psoas stretch"
You may be amazed
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Mar 10, 2017 - 12:35pm PT
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hey there, say, rottingjohnny...
i could not walk without pain for about 2 years, ... only recently,
did i get help, twice...
once about 7? years back, from my osteopath friends from england,
but-- the pain came back, after i lugged all kind of furniture, and my
belonging, into the house, here, when i moved it...
the trouble was the piriformis...
i hurt it from physical work, lugging cat litters, through
low cage doors-- it TWISTED the hip, wrong...
so-- once you solve this, if you can (sometimes it takes years) :(
then-- do not over twist the HIP anymore... !!!
i tried for years, to find the right thing, yet, the stretches
never worked fully...
i recently read that the SCIATIC nerve RUNS slightly
different, through different folks, hip area...
this may? be why certain stretched do not always work for some???
it ruined my work situation and everything i wanted to do...
FINALLY now, this last year and half,
no pain!!
can walk, and dance, and sit, but NOT IN LOW SOFA!!!
WATCH WHAT KIND OF THINGS YOU SIT ON--
SOFT chairs are no good, :(
here is one, similar, as to what finally helped me:
TAKE NOTE, AT 0:53 THIS STRETCH
IS WHAT FINALLY HELPED ME...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
this is a little similar, but with a
medicine ball...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
here is one more, good one...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
i hope and pray, you can solve this...
it ruined my life, for a long long time...
i knew i should have stopped that job, but it was
all i had... the other gals ruined their back disc,
and me:
i thought it better to risk my leg, than my back,
but man oh man...
i never knew what SCIATIC nerve could do, :O
best wishes, rottingjohnny...
keep trying and do not give up...
sometimes, too, it TAKES time...
and no strenuous work, on which ever leg/hip, etc,
is the bad on...
EDIT:
ooops, almost forgot...
make SURE you know, if it is piriformis,
or, sciatic in the BACK...
you can test yourself, as to WHERE the pain radiates
DOWN YOUR LEG...
FORGOT where to find that info, but i can search, later...
sciatic back pain, and hip pain, are DUE TO DIFFERENT
reason...
so check that out...
or, you won't have the right stretches, and or,
you MAY have damage in the lower back???
that you DO NOT KNOW??? about...
:)
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Mar 10, 2017 - 12:37pm PT
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Tight Piriformis muscles are a frequent cause of sciatic pain. I've got a friend up around Sacramento who, after years operating heavy equipment, was suffering from gnarly sciatic pain. He was getting epidural injections and his docs were talking surgery. I taught him some basic stretches, mostly similar to "pigeon" in Yoga. He was fine in one month.
There's lots of info out there on Piriformis Syndrome and the stretches. This basic clip is good because it's basic. A lot of Yoga teachers go for too much mobility too fast.
http://www.spine-health.com/video/sciatica-exercises-piriformis-syndrome-video
Edit: Neebee beat me too it :-)
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 10, 2017 - 12:38pm PT
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^^^^^ Neebee, thems some big werds for our RJ!
But I could see him getting on the ball, so to speak.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Mar 10, 2017 - 12:43pm PT
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hey there say, ksolem... (edit--note to reilly, in next post down) :)
hee hee... say, yep...
say, but you have a GREAT POINT HERE...
i do not take medications, or pain stuff...
so, yeah, it was awful, but:
i never went for any INJECTIONS etc, or such, either...
and, WOW, when i found the RIGHT STRETCH-- and or, release, etc,
like what you shared, as well...
it was almost same day, GONE! next day, was amazing,
and in fact, right after the stretch, i could tell the difference...
i just had to keep it up and NOT use that leg for heavy
lifting and turning... WHICH is what the cat litters, through
that TINY gate, in the cat cage, did to strain my leg,
as it TWISTED so i could crawl back out...
THIS shows SO much, that the human body WOULD REALLY love to
HEAL itself, IF WE so allow it to do so...
trouble is, it can take time and rest...
and we, in turn appear to be 'lazy' to others...
while the body tries to heal...
:)
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c wilmot
climber
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Mar 10, 2017 - 12:48pm PT
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unfortunetly the spinal cord is unable to heal itself : (
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Mar 10, 2017 - 12:48pm PT
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hey there say, reilly...
happy good day to you!
always good to get the ball rolling, :)
seriously, though-- i hate to see folks in pain...
anything i can do to help, after what i been through,
is a good thing i can do...
i was a dance coach, and teacher, too, and was glad i
was able to do that again, after all this...
i could not even walk, a few FEET without being in such pain,
that i just tried to sit on the floor...
when i went shopping, i think the store workers, THOUGHT i was
getting down to the floor to steal something into my shirts, :O
whewwww...
the deal here though, is DO NOT GIVE UP...
THERE IS another good thread around here, too, somewhere, on all this...
perhaps we can find it later...
getting over to the piano now and i need to paint,
and help my 95 year old friend, tomorrow...
sadly, she is MORE pain, than i even had...
no one can help her, as it is bone on bone, :(
but she 'keeps on trucking' ...
i try to give her some joy, as, she is wanting to just
'cash in the chips' from such pain... :(
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Mar 10, 2017 - 12:50pm PT
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hey there say, c wilmot...
sadly, so much so true... :(
nerves, etc...
one of the MAIN reasons, i risked my leg, and
damaging spinal disc, like the other gals, did...
though:
i know you are talking about MUCH MORE than just that...
are you, yourself, okay?
edit:
got to go now... i budget my time very careful, but
i keep the computer on, in case i can run back...
i hope your situation, or a loved ones, is
getting some help and joy, if something IS wrong...
or-- if a general information share, thank you for sharing,
as, THAT is another serious note, to check on too:
if pain is really from the spine or not...
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John M
climber
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Mar 10, 2017 - 01:05pm PT
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I tried multiple stretches before I found the one that really helped me with my sciatica. In nee bees bottoms video, where he crosses his legs. But I do mine with my feet on the wall like I am sitting in a chair on the wall.
Try different ones. It took about 3 months of stretching to get it to completely go away, and I still have to do them regularly to keep it at bay. but I got relief very quickly once I found the right one. And likely it was combination, but I was already limber in certain areas.
Hope that you get better. I know it sucks.
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John M
climber
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Mar 10, 2017 - 01:09pm PT
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Thanks Dingus. :-) Thats one of about 20 problems that I finally found an answer too. hahaha.. Sometimes life is pretty bizarre.
I cured my allergy problems too, with something called NAET.
So thats 2 !!! hahaha..
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado & Nepal
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Mar 10, 2017 - 01:21pm PT
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Are you sure it's sciatica? I had what I thought was sciatica which got better after a chiropractic adjustment although the intervals kept getting shorter and shorter. Then I drove my jeep up an extremely rutted 4 wheel drive road and set it off so bad, I had to go for X-rays and a coritisone shot.
At that point they discovered my pain wasn't sciatica at all but total lack of cartilage in the joint. I ended up with a hip replacement shortly thereafter. The replacement is nothing short of miraculous for working better now than the joint has in 30 years. If you haven't already get an x-ray.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Mar 10, 2017 - 02:02pm PT
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hey there say, jan...
yes--good to add that, as, one must make sure, first, what
it is that is going REALLY going on...
so glad you found out, too, and got that taken care of...
say, john m... wow, keep whittling those 20 problems down,
hope we can see a progress report and that you got them down
to about 5? or so,
:)
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Mar 10, 2017 - 03:38pm PT
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Neebee.... and all... this is some great stuff.
RJ... if your in real pain like I was, do this stretch that Kris taught me.
lie on your stomach (thats face down) squeeze your ass cheeks tight (just like your going to get a swat from the principal in Hi-School) for 10 seconds... rest for 10 seconds... repeat. Do this for a hour or so... it will help.
all of us are getting older, we need this sort of help.
and RJ... just hang on a bit longer, when OSHA mandates certain gear be carried and properly used, by all climbers, there will be lots of job openings for "EXPERIENCED - DETAIL MINDED - CLIMBERS - WHO WILL NOT TAKE SH#T FROM ANYBODY"
you can do the crags up by MM... I will do Stoney Point.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Mar 10, 2017 - 03:57pm PT
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I had that pain in my butt which eventually migrated down the nerve to my foot. This went on and off for 20 years as a result of heavy construction and surfing several times a week.
About 3 years ago the bulging disc ruptured and a chunk lodged against a nerve. The sciatica issues went away but the nerve that is affected now has created a whole new set of issues including not being able to surf on a regular basis.
I tried chiropractics, acupuncture, cortisone injections and pretty much everything under the sun, except surgery. The bottom line is that relief is in your hands. I finally got serious and dropped 25 pounds, as well as the elimination of every negative factor that I have control over.
You can't have a gut, you have to firm up the core, stretch often (only when warm), maintain good posture and walk, walk, walk. Blood flow to that area is critical. Oddly enough, climbing helps.
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Bruce Morris
Trad climber
Belmont, California
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Mar 10, 2017 - 04:37pm PT
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I occasionally moderate a chronic pain chat group and I've never encountered a case of sciatica that didn't follow hard on a significant life-stress event, usually one of the top 5 or 6 Holmes-Rahe events such as a death in the family, a divorce, loss of income, big debts, retirement etc. etc.
That's not to say sciatica doesn't occur for other reasons such as deep seated conflicted emotions or, worse still, autoimmune disorders such as Lupus, ALS or Mr C. All of which indicate that sciatica should be checked out first by a conventional allopathic MD. But in my experience sciatica generally comes on within six months of a high-impact emotional stress event. Mindfulness meditation and deep breathing can access the problem sometimes, unless it goes back to emotional conflict in early childhood like mommy-daddy issues.
To play it safe, start with the conventional docs then move on to the spiritual physicians.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Mar 10, 2017 - 04:53pm PT
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Overall I'd say being married is way more of a PITA than that was...
Agree with that. Way more costly and painful than surgery.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Mar 10, 2017 - 05:02pm PT
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As a physician who has treated over a thousand patients with back and gluteal pain, I'd guess less than one in ten of what people describe as sciatica, actually is.
the "classic" description is pain in the back/butt area, that radiates all the way down to the foot.
without that, I'd go on a pretty significant expedition to explore the possibility of other causes.
I find that many physicians do not seem to understand the pathology of sciatic nerve problems. Given a choice, I'd see a specialist in Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation, a non-surgical specialty that few seem to know about.
Jeryl Wiens, MD in Fresno has an excellent reputation, and was my classmate in Medical school. He wears a super bowl ring given to him by Joe Montana, who credited Wiens for enabling him to play much longer than anyone thought he could.
He is a mountaineer and backpacker.
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