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Glenn Marks
Social climber
Santa Rosa, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 17, 2006 - 12:18pm PT
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Advanced microwave weaponry exists Americans can't imagine:
I'm a doctor. In 1975, at the University at U.C. Berkeley Optometry Research we were working on the VER, visually evoked response. In order to find the prescription for your Rx (refractive error), all you had to do is stare at the chart while we attached electrodes to your brain and manipulated the lenses before your eyes to find your Rx. Even then, 30 years ago, it worked most the time, but was far too expensive for commercial use. In a sense it read your brain (actually the brain waves emanating from the visual cortex) to determine your best prescription. This was obviously not a pulse EMF weapon, but it gives you an idea how advanced research was over 30 years ago.
Richard Sprague, consultant to th General Counsels of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, says that one reason Americans have been fooled is that they could not imagine the existence of advanced weaponry:
"These techniques are so new and unusual as to be unbelievable to most citizens. Thus, the incredibility of such weapons as hypnosis, brainwashing and "programming" of patsies as assassins became a psychological tool in the bag of techniques of the power control group. The average American has shrugged off the possibility of the takeover with the belief that, "That's not possible here."
Microwave weapons & aneurysms
Activist,Women, people of color and many other people are experiencing vicious assaults with lethal pulsed-radiation weaponry that causes injuries, chronic illness. Causing slow-kill injuries such as cancer, as well as fast kill injuries stroke, aneurysm, heart attack, etc...
People are silently murdered and it is made to look like death by natural causes the real cause is lethal pulsed-radiation weaponry.
"In October 2000, Congressman Kucinich introduced in the House of Representatives a bill, concerning these weapons.
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/03/335824.html
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ToA/ToAchp1.html
Do Microwave Weapons Kill?
The U.S. military says HPM weapons are non-lethal.... The U.S Marines Corp. is currently developing a microwave-based weapon that inflicts a brief, intense burning sensation on the target's skin similar to touching a hot light bulb. Mounted on Humvee, the weapon is designed for crowd dispersal. The temperature settings as high as 130 degrees F. ...someone in the path of a HPM burst might be cooked like a meal readied by a microwave oven. ...it's definitely going to hurt, leaving the victim incapacitated for a short period of time. --Frank Vizard
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000CBC91-B6FD-1E51-A98A809EC5880105
List of the Electronic weapons that are for sale online. Which means anyone can buy them. ...most people have no concept of these types of weapons which munnitions are invisible.
http://www.stopdewnit.org/electronicweapons.stopdewnit.html
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monolith
Trad climber
Albany,CA
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Dec 17, 2006 - 12:22pm PT
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Damn, I thought it was Stoner Technology but since you are, like, a doctor and everything, I'll go with microwaves.
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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Dec 17, 2006 - 12:54pm PT
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I tried some of this tech on my Siamese; they now smile a lot and have demanded the car keys.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Dec 17, 2006 - 01:01pm PT
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Woody
The microwave works great for drying cat if it's been out in the rain.
You just have to use the right setting for if you want him rare or medium
;-(
Karl
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Dec 17, 2006 - 01:03pm PT
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The Electro-Magnetic Spectrum is vast and the potential to use it for unlawful illegal means and even to kill people is actively pursued by many for sure.
Our military does have this capability right now. They have EM weapondry that can instantly stop/cut-out the engines in military vehicles, cars, planes etc. from a far distance.
By the way, with the Wellstone Assassination, the FBI had to have left their main office before the plane crash to be able to have arrived on the scene when they did. Their main offices from where they came were further than the less than 2 hours it took them to get to and find the crashsite. HHHhhhhhmmmmmmm.
And the pilots were commercial licensed pilots, and that is 2 pilots, not one. Wellstone was not flying. The weather was fine.
Here is the book at Amazon---
American Assassination: The Strange Death Of Senator Paul Wellstone (Paperback)
by Four Arrows, James H. Fetzer
http://www.amazon.com/American-Assassination-Strange-Senator-Wellstone/dp/0975276301/sr=8-2/qid=1166377281/ref=sr_1_2/102-1976964-0516150?ie=UTF8&s=books
Here is the Editor Review at Amazon:
"Editorial Reviews
Book Description
Senator Paul Wellstone was, "the first 1960s radical elected to the U.S. Senate." In Senate Race 2002, the White House made defeating Wellstone priority #1. Karl Rove hand-picked arch Republican Norm Coleman to run against him. Despite massive funding, Coleman was trailing the popular Wellstone two weeks before election day.
Then, tragedy struck. On the morning of October 25th, 2002, Wellstone was killed after a mysterious communication cut-out and crash of his small aircraft. He died alongside his wife Sheila, their daughter Marcia, three staff members, and two pilots, while trying to land at Minnesota’s Eveleth airfield. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer insisted to his reporter at the scene that foul weather was the lethal factor in the crash, despite the statements to the contrary from the CNN correspondent. To this day, the public tends to blame the weather.
Ph.D. Professors James Fetzer and Don "Four Arrows" Jacobs present the harrowing truth. The plane was exceptionally airworthy. The weather didn’t bring down Senator Wellstone. Nor were the two pilots incompetent, as the report of the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) would eventually claim.
The facts point elsewhere. The FBI arrived at the remote rural crash scene less than two hours after the crash. Could they have known about it in advance? The FBI forbade the ambulance and fire teams to take photos. Even the AP photographer on hand was intimidated, delayed and then highly monitored. For some reason, a member of the U.S. Capitol Police Dignitary Protection Division was also present.
Why did the FBI state that they were treating the site as a "crime scene" although there were "no indications of any criminal activity"? How could the FBI so very swiftly conclude and state publicly, before NTSB arrived, that there was "no evidence of terrorism" involved? Why did the NTSB search for a "black box" for a day and a half and then conclude that there hadn't been one, after all?
AMERICAN ASSASSINATION confirms the worst fears of a nation. Senator Paul Wellstone was murdered.
Both authors are decorated university professors. A Native American, Four Arrows (a.k.a. Dr. Don Jacobs) teaches educational leadership and is a staunch critic of US foreign policy. Dr. Jim Fetzer is a published expert on U.S. political assassinations and the logic of science.
Although no one can prove exactly what happened in the events leading to Wellstone’s death, these two Ph.D.s point out the official story’s inconsistencies and deliberate omissions. With a methodical argument, they present evidence of an official cover-up, a compelling motive for Wellstone’s assassination and advance a more likely explanation for how Senator Wellstone's plane was taken down. Their findings include new evidence and alternative hypotheses that were never considered by the NTSB:
• There was never any distress call from the pilots. Communication was somehow cut off shortly before the crash.
• NTSB’s Carol Carmody handled the Wellstone case. A former CIA official, Carmody is a damage-control expert who handled the NTSB’s investigation of the suspicious aircraft crash of Democratic Senatorial candidate Mel Carnahan, exactly two years earlier.
• NTSB is legally mandated to take jurisdiction over a crash scene, yet it allowed the FBI to control the scene--and then neglected to cite the FBI’s involvement in presence in the NTSB's final report.
• Some witnesses heard the engines cutting out, a phenomenon not consistent with a stall.
• Others reported odd cell-phone and garage-door phenomena that were taking place about the same time the plane lost both communications and control.
• The NTSB's own simulations, which replicated properties like those of King Air A-100s under similar conditions, were unable to bring the plane down—even when conducted under abnormally slow speeds!
• One of the members who actually signed the report, Richard Healing, admitted that they really had no idea what had caused the plane to crash.
Since becoming active in this issue, local residents have contacted Professor Fetzer and related strange electronic interference in the area at the time of the crash. One experienced an odd cell-phone phenomenon with a form of static he had never heard before. Its auditory pattern appears to be similar to that of "electro-magnetic pulse" (EMP) weapons recently developed by the Pentagon to jam the computer-assisted controls of enemy aircraft.
Reports of garage doors that mysteriously opened in the immediate vicinity are surfacing. And radar images from the time of the plane crashes of Senator Carnahan and of Senator Wellstone are suggestive of EMP imprints. These weapons not only jam a plane's electronics but also disable its radio communications.
In the wake of the crash, 69% of Minnesoteans blamed a "GOP Conspiracy" for Wellstone’s death. This book makes the case that, in this case, at least, the people had it right.
In appendices to AMERICAN ASSASSINATION, Paul Wellstone’s courageous stands against the rich and powerful continue to inspire us. It presents highlights from Wellstone’s platform and includes his important speech, "On Iraq."
His opposition to the Bush administration helps the reader to understand why the Senator was a likely target for assassination. When the reader meets Wellstone in his own words, his vision is kept alive and lives on in each of us.
From the Publisher
A meticulous, objective, and scientific analysis of the available relevant evidence that established beyond a reasonable doubt that this was no accident and explains why the death of Senator Paul Wellstone appears to have resulted from a political conspiracy."
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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Dec 17, 2006 - 01:36pm PT
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I'm not saying that he wasn't assasinated, the stakes were plenty high. But two peices of circumstantial evidence stated in the book write up are actually normal. Planes have a emergency transmitter to call out their location if they go down. It's not that hard to find, our local SAR team trains with the ELT device once a year.
As for treating the crash as a crime scene, every death in the woods is treated as a crime scene until proven otherwise. When your local SAR team cleans up a suicide or a climbing death, its technically a crime scene.
Tom
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monolith
Trad climber
Albany,CA
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Dec 17, 2006 - 01:54pm PT
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Klimmer, try posting your crap here
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Dec 17, 2006 - 03:02pm PT
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Klimmer, it's hard to know even where to begin when reviewing your nonsensical post about Wellstone. The following is from the StarTribune, the largest newspaper in Minneapolis. Wellstone was extremely well liked there-so, it will be difficult for you to claim this reporting is biased:
Last update: February 22, 2003 – 11:00 PM
Wellstone's pilot balked at flying on morning of crash
By Tony Kennedy and Greg Gordon, Star Tribune
The captain of Sen. Paul Wellstone's fatal flight to Eveleth was so concerned about the weather that he briefly canceled the trip before deciding to go ahead with it, according to new information from crash investigators.
Three days earlier, the same pilot accidentally endangered Wellstone by flipping the wrong switch on a takeoff from St. Paul. That mistake by Capt. Richard Conry was corrected by his copilot after the plane pitched downward while trying to gain altitude just 300 feet off the ground.
"Oh, that could have been pretty bad," Conry reportedly told the copilot.
When the plane landed safely in Rochester, Wellstone jokingly told Conry to "get some sleep," the report said. Conry's copilot on that flight later suggested to Conry that he should consider retiring.
Those findings were among many facts released without comment Friday by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), which won't rule on the cause of the crash for months.
But Friday's report sheds new light on the backgrounds of the two pilots and on Conry's anxiety about weather conditions before the fatal Oct. 25 flight, which included light to moderate icing, low cloud ceilings and low visibilities in northeastern Minnesota.
The NTSB report, which is several hundred pages long and still not complete, includes information gathered from air traffic controllers, meteorologists, Wellstone staffers, and employees of Aviation Charter Inc., the firm Wellstone hired to operate the flight.
On the fatal flight, Conry, 55, was paired with 30-year-old Michael Guess, an Aviation Charter copilot who was thought by some of his colleagues to need improvement.
NTSB investigators were told that Guess was friendly and eager to fly. However, "several pilots who had flown with Guess at Aviation Charter expressed concerns about Guess' flying skills, especially his ability to land the airplane without assistance," the report said.
Similarly, pilots who had flown with Conry expressed concerns about his flying skills. For example, a King Air pilot told investigators that during an instrument approach to the airport in Fort Dodge, Iowa, he had to take the controls away from Conry because Conry was unable to hold altitude....
Clearly, the weather was horrible and the two pilots were marginally qualified. Your conspiracy nonsense smells to high heaven.
Curt
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Dec 17, 2006 - 03:27pm PT
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Wanna play New World Order?
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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Dec 17, 2006 - 03:55pm PT
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Karl,
Okay, I tried it. I put one of the Siamese in the shower then into the microwave. I'm now locked in the bedroom listening to the clawing on the door.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Dec 17, 2006 - 04:35pm PT
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If the Tin Foil Hat Guys are right it makes a great case against Universal Government Health Care.
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N0_ONE
Social climber
Utah
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Dec 17, 2006 - 05:53pm PT
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DR. Glen Marks, Sir,
Thanks for letting us know your a Docter. I might not have taken you serious if it wern't for that tid bit of humbly shared info. I'm just glad you didn't say trust me I'm a Mormon. What confuses me is that, even, with all the mounds of information you guys have piled away in your heads from reading all those slightly left leaning blogs, most of the people echoing your statements are the same liberal wackjobs that want to take away our 2nd amendment right to bear arms. How in the hell are we going to fight the bastards off if their the only ones that have weapons?
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Dec 17, 2006 - 06:06pm PT
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Lois
You are assuming that the guy actually had an AVM. I don't really know either way.
Woody wrote
"Karl,
Okay, I tried it. I put one of the Siamese in the shower then into the microwave. I'm now locked in the bedroom listening to the clawing on the door."
Woody, you fried your cat. That's you clawing on the door. Let yourself out before you wreck the carpet.
;-)
Karl
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No-one, you forget the right wind wackjobs have the same kinda sites. They charged that a previous Senator with a cerebral bleed was killed. Don't forget Vince Foster and Wacko, Tx too.
Doesn't mean all conspiracies are wacko. Those who dismiss them without looking harder are bound to be tooled. All good conspiracies are surrounded by crazy out-there stuff. That's disinformation to keep folks from taking things seriously.
I'm sure there were plenty of Jews looking forward to a nice clean shower despite the nasty rumours.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Dec 17, 2006 - 06:14pm PT
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Better look out KB. Dick Cheney is huntin for you with one of these.
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N0_ONE
Social climber
Utah
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Dec 17, 2006 - 06:45pm PT
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Karl,
I didn't forget about the right wing wackos and I don't dispute that this technology is being persude and possibley used, but the right wing wackos arent trying to take OUR WEAPONS!
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TradIsGood
Happy and Healthy climber
the Gunks end of the country
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Not much time left on this conspiracy.
Such incompetence!
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paganmonkeyboy
Trad climber
the blighted lands of hatu
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I'm gonna qualify this comment with some background - I was studying aerospace engineering from 85 - 91 at a U that has had some serious high tech stuff come out of it, and high energy physics and cosmology have been sort of a hobby for the better part of three decades.
There is No Doubt in my mind that some serious technology has been developed that we can only dream of. Knowing what was going on 20 years ago, what kids in the lab all over the world were doing, I seriously feel that things such as the Wellstone crash, other mysterious nicely timed 'events, etc, have to be viewed in a fairly skeptical manner, especially when taken in the greater context of the bigger picture.
With this as my opinion, the next question for me becomes - If I had a weapon that I could use and you would never know I was using it until it was too late/if ever, what would keep me from using it against any and all perceived enemies ?
one monkey's opinion...
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Moof
Trad climber
A cube at my soul sucking job in Oregon
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I've been working in RF and microwave for the last ~8 years. Some of that with modestly high power. One of the more interesting presentations I attended was about a badly failed effort to use micrwave energy to "cook" large cancer tumors.
The most interesting result was that it was was just not possible to get enough microave energy to travel into the body cavity without losing most of it in the fat layer right beneeth the skin. The muscle and blood are conductive, as it the skin surface, fat between the two is not so conductive, but acts as a good dielectric, concentrating the energy there. So you heat the fat, and almost none of it gets into the organs.
In general, folks who are irradiated first go blind before much else fails. The crowd disperser idea is bound for major lawsuits by folks that develop cataracts 5-10 years later. The eye has very few blood vessels, so it is the slowest to dissipate heat. The results is that first the lenses get cooked (resulting in cataracts as the dead lense cells cloud over). Next the cornea gets cooked as the occular goo overheats. Next you get sterilized (if male), as that area has a large surface area to mass ratio and gets heated up faster, and dies off at a lower temeprature than the rest of the body.
Are there wild and wacky RF and microwave weapons? I don't know. Knowing the government, they've surely paid somebody's nephew to at least investigate it. When folks in the medical profession have tried to do the same things that it is claimed the military has head for years, they have failed for some pretty basic and insurmountable reasons, and that is with a cooperative, non moving patient, with the ability to use refrigerator sized equipment right next to them.
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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Maybe some of this microwave stuff could be put to a good use, one that would benefit us all: use it on Kennedy.
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