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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Apr 28, 2016 - 06:09am PT
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I'm with The Maid on this one--cool but what the hell$$$$? The people of LA are getting hosed. I'm happy to hear the dust pollution problem has been basically solved, however. That was $$ that needed to be spent.
BAd
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Apr 28, 2016 - 06:17am PT
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Kalifornia has become immeasurably more entertaining while watching from the outside in.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 28, 2016 - 06:18am PT
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It's a bit hard to tell, but I think it includes some trails and interp and other stuff as well as the structures. I plan on giving it a visit- I'll get back with the skinny at some point.
"This isn't something we just plopped down on dry Owens Lake," Terry Schneider, a spokeswoman for the DWP who grew up in Owens Valley, said in response to the jibes from locals.
"It was required by the State Lands Commission, and we made it a place that would boost the local economy and people would find beautiful and informing, a place visitors would return to with family members and friends."
Edit to add: the quote from a real-estate agent bitching about the DWP not releasing land to sell was kind of lame- not sure why they put that in there.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Apr 28, 2016 - 06:22am PT
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DWP could help the Lone Pine economy by re-filling Owens Lake...
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Apr 28, 2016 - 06:39am PT
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DWP could help the Lone Pine economy by re-filling Owens Lake...
I think we all know that isn't going to happen.
I'm guessing some of the 4.6 million went to some sort of EIR or EIS process (depending upon state or federal land supervision) and to study and implement mitigation measures for dust suppression and during construction. These kind of things used to have to be OK'ed by the powers that be. The way things are now, except for a comment period and some public meetings, that is not the community of Lone Pine. I used to get involved in these types of things in between RI/FS's.
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rwedgee
Ice climber
CA
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Apr 28, 2016 - 07:55am PT
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All the rock in the area and they used faux stone on the structures....for $4 million ?? Other than that the stuff is pretty cool but kind of pricey.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Apr 28, 2016 - 08:54am PT
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Select quotes from page_id=2http://www.owenslakeproject.com/?page_id=2
This is perhaps the most critical time for the Owens Lake in almost a century. What was once a 110-square-mile lake estimated to be 1,000,000 years old began disappearing when the Los Angeles Aqueduct opened in 1913, diverting the entire lower Owens River away from the lake. A once-vibrant ecosystem that supported expansive bird and plant habitats began disappearing, replaced by a dry lakebed plagued by noxious and almost constant dust storms and turning communities around the lake into ghost towns. Forced under court order after decades of litigation to begin releasing water back into the lower Owens River, the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power finally began restoration efforts in late 2006.
The initial goal of the restoration was to mitigate the blowing dust and institute effective dust control programs, but has had the added benefit of reviving in small part the ecosystem that once flourished as a breeding ground for millions of birds, and supported vast and beautiful alkali meadows around the lake. In just three years since the re-watering of the lower Owens River commenced, bird populations around the lake have increased exponentially, and the native plant life has begun to revive as well. To ensure continued restoration of the Owens Lake that now includes habitat restoration as a goal, a network of groups in the Owens Valley including the Eastern Sierra Audubon Society, the Owens Valley Committee, the Bristlecone Pine Chapter of the California Native Plants Society and the Eastern Sierra Land Trust have all been working hard to see the restoration continued and, hopefully, expanded with this additional goal in mind. For this documentary project, Mike Prather of Eastern Sierra Audubon has already been of invaluable help in familiarizing me with the lake and its various bird habitats.
EDIT: There is an EIR process (State oversight then) that was subcontracted out to Sapphos Environmental Inc. http://www.sapphosenvironmental.com/Projects/Owens_Lake.aspx
EDIT 2: The EIR process is still ongoing at least through winter 2016.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Apr 28, 2016 - 09:39am PT
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Thanks for the heads up.
I've been in that area over the years during high winds. It's awful. I really feel for the community over there that has to deal with it year after year. I hope the dust mitigation continues to get better. That is really the most important thing.
I'm not sure how I feel about the need to construct something there. The area is so visually, starkly beautiful, it just seems to speak for itself. I'll check it out next opportunity, but I will be interested in your report on it, JTM.
AS an aside, I thought of you several times in the past few weeks. Just got back from 16 days in Italy and saw some phenomenal stained glass. If I got any good photos, I'll post them in the "art" thread...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 28, 2016 - 09:55am PT
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$4 MILLION could have done a fair bit of habitat restoration but PR is clearly more pressing.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Apr 28, 2016 - 02:18pm PT
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Kalifornia has become immeasurably more entertaining while watching from the outside in.
The feeling is mutual Essy
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Apr 28, 2016 - 02:30pm PT
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Just got back from 16 days in Italy I hate you. ;)
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Apr 28, 2016 - 02:52pm PT
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I have a love/hate relationship with LA/DWP. By locking up all the water rights back in the day, LA/DWP saved the Owen's Valley from what would, by now, be rampant development. Can you say Sun City Bishop? Phoenix north? Good Gawd. So, LA/DWP both destroyed and saved the village. For a great history of water in the west read Cadillac Desert by Marc Reisner, fantastic book.
BAd
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rwedgee
Ice climber
CA
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Apr 28, 2016 - 04:07pm PT
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"I'm not sure how I feel about the need to construct something there. The area is so visually, starkly beautiful, it just seems to speak for itself. I'll check it out next opportunity, but I will be interested in your report on it, JTM."
Phyll, the area generally is beautiful but the lakebed is a mess of permanent piping, valves, solar panels, etc. It actually looks like an oil field or something of that nature. The easiest way to get in is off 395 at Lubkin Canyon,at Boulder Creek RV park and go East then south just after the pumping station. Or from 136 take the dirt road a few miles north of Keeler.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Apr 28, 2016 - 04:30pm PT
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"Wedding ceremonies on Owens Lake? Good luck finding a restroom..."
So maybe if enough relatives and guests get together they could begin refilling the lake?
Eventually, I mean.
That's a lot of champagne punch.
More money down the drain, probably.
Otro enlace.
http://www.kcet.org/shows/artbound/owens-lake-land-art-nuvis-ladwp-1
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Apr 28, 2016 - 06:04pm PT
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at Boulder Creek RV park
Thanks for the directions, Rwedgee!
I stay at that RV park in my Winnebago about once a year, know exactly where it is.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Apr 28, 2016 - 06:06pm PT
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I hate you. ;)
Sorry, Fat Dad! I felt pretty lucky to be able to do that though. ;-)
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Apr 28, 2016 - 06:14pm PT
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$4 MILLION could have done a fair bit of habitat restoration but PR is clearly more pressing.
+1
I have a love/hate relationship with LA/DWP. By locking up all the water rights back in the day, LA/DWP saved the Owen's Valley from what would, by now, be rampant development.
BAd
I respect your opinion, but not sure that would have happened
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DonC
climber
CA
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May 28, 2016 - 04:43pm PT
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Skip - thanks for this post and your trip report. I have driven past the lake for decades and never explored it. Your posts made me want to take a look. It is a rat maze of roads and civil engineering. Binoculars and GPS are almost a requirement to not get lost.
Stopped by the "pavillion" just after sunset.
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