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HighDesertDJ
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 6, 2015 - 12:32pm PT
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Let's please consolidate our political shitposting into one thread like the good ol' days. The topics are largely redundant and repetitive and there's no reason to torture everyone else with them. When one day we begin having in depth, constructive and collegial discussions maybe we can multi-thread without fear but as it is we are just gong to get nuked by Mac's Minions.
Existing (and hopefully soon to die) political threads:
Ready for Donald?
Ready for Hillary?
I'm so proud of my President
Ready for Bernie?
Ready for Cruz?
The Presidential Election:
Always at the top of everyone's attention (warranted or not) and the most covered by media. The contenders:
Republicans:
Ben Carson
Donald Trump
Marco Rubio
Carly Fiorina
John Kasich
Jeb Bush
Ted Cruz
Chris Christie
Rick Santorum
Mike Huckaby
Rand Paul
Bobby Jindal
George Pataki
Also Rans:
Rick "Oops" Perry - Governor of Texas, bespectacled intellectual...and..what was that third thing?
Scott "Union Buster" Walker - Gatekeeper to the Second Gilded Age
Democrats:
Hillary Clinton
Bernard "Bernie" Sanders
Martin O'Malley
Also Rans:
Jim "I killed a guy in 'Nam" Webb - ran out of time
Lincoln "Goofy Ass Grin" Chaffee - not the only farrier to not become President
Debates:
GOP Debate: Fox Business, November 10, Wisconsin
DNC Debate: CBS, November 14, Iowa
GOP Debate: CNN, December 2015, Nevada
DNC Debate: ABC, December 19, New Hampshire
GOP Debate: Fox News, January 2016, Iowa
DNC Debate: NBC, January 17, NBC
GOP Debate: ABC News, February 2016, New Hampshire
GOP Debate: CBS News, February 2016, South Carolina
GOP Debate: NBC/Telemundo, February 2016, Florida
July 18, 2016: RNC begins in Cleveland
July 25, 2016: DNC begins in Philadelphia
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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I support this action.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2015 - 12:47pm PT
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John M posted I believe that the issue with too big to fail is that we have allowed institutions to get so big that if they fail, they can bring down the nations economy with drastic effect. I believe it was the right idea to save those companies because if we didn't, we would have entered a depression, which would have been even more costly. Instead, once we saved them, then we need to start figuring out how to limit their size so that they aren't anymore "too big to fail". We did that in part with the laws on monopolies. Now we need the next level.
There is a legitimate debate here on exactly how these things should be handled. Economic liberals are likely to echo your sentiments: don't let financial institutions become so big they put our whole economy at risk. Economic conservatives are more likely to say "let them get as big as they want their size will self-regulate when they realize that nobody is coming to save them when they fail." I'm inclined to say a little of each is necessary. Monopoly busting is a pretty blunt tool and in a lot of cases wouldn't be necessary if the government would stop approving various mega-mergers or if they would have put enforcement teeth into bills that gave away huge amounts of money to either the banks or telecommunication companies (back in the '90s.)
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dirtbag
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So, how about that Dennis Hastert fella?
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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GOP Debate: Fox Business, November 9, Wisconsin
I believe it's Nov 10.
Susan
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Is anyone here really voting for Carson? Dude is seriously whacked.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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You have to admire that Hillary has eliminated 3/5 of her opponents, while Bush has only gotten rid of 2/18.
Looks like Lindsay Graham (who you did not list) and Pataki are about to bite the dust, courtesy of FOX.
Carson gone within the month. He will not withstand Stolen Valor.
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John M
climber
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He is still in it folks. Sounds plausible.
but about that grain..
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Carson, whose steady rise to the top of presidential primary polls has started to draw media scrutiny his way, is depending on a loose interpretation of the word "scholarship." There is no tuition at West Point; there is no equivalent of a "scholarship" as generally understood at most universities. In his memoir "Gifted Hands" and in anecdotes about the offer, Carson never says that he "applied," only that some "scholarship" came his way after a meeting with Westmoreland and "congressional medal winners."
"I was offered a full scholarship to West Point," Carson wrote. "I didn't refuse the scholarship outright, but I let them know that a military career wasn't where I saw myself going. As overjoyed as I felt to be offered such a scholarship, I wasn't really tempted. The scholarship would have obligated me to spend four years in military service after I finished college, precluding my chances to go on to medical school."
So he was offered s "scholarship" which did not exist, from someone who was not authorized or had the power to extend one.
This is a political parsing of words-----however it is NOT to those I know in the military.
So can anyone who went to Yale equally claim that they were "offered" a military scholarship, because they obviously "could" have gone there???
What would be the point of such a claim, other than to endear oneself to the military?
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Weather Carson is in or not, his polling numbers among republican voters totally undermines the obsessive pulling of the race card by democrat partisans.
Intellectual honesty is never a strong suit with partisans.
Even John Stewart had a segment on the race card being overdrawn.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Dr M is just upset the darkie is a famous neurosurgeon and he isn't.
All he ever said is his ROTC adviser was encouraging him to go for an appointment and it wasn't the direction he wanted to go.
Yes he has some oddball opinions on ancient history, but at least he doesn't believe it the economic impossibilities posited by Saddlebags and Barney.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Hey, the POTUS is Commander In Chief, not the Head Archaeologist. Besides,
filling the pyramids with grain would be a good move to get ready for the
Apocalypse!
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Yeah, but I want my Commander in Chief to actually have a grasp of reality. If Carson can't understand the pyramids are actually big piles of large stones he's not my man, especially because the POTUS has his proverbial middle finger on the 'button'. No, a believer in the rapture is not my top choice as someone who has the power to destroy the world. He's got to be on drugs.
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dirtbag
climber
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Ready for Rubio? He's next to rise.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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^^^
Fakt!
And he just might get the nod, too...
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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No, a believer in the rapture is not my top choice as someone who has the power to destroy the world. He's got to be on drugs.
And yet Bachman ran for president once. She has predicted the end of days under Obama's watch. No need for the election.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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This thread is never gonna work for its intended purpose. You can't herd the ST cats into one thread.
Valiant effort, though. Kudos for that, but it's been tried.
BTW, guns are awesome! There ought to be a law requiring every resident of the USA to open carry at all times, even in bed. Open-carry is hard in bed, so many will resist. But with a LAW, we can make it happen!
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