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Guangzhou
Trad climber
Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
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Topic Author's Original Post - May 27, 2015 - 06:37pm PT
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It's been along time since I posted, but hello from China. Looks like I was offered the opportunity to open a new school in Chongqing, emailed some climbers I knew about the area and jumped on the opportunity. Lots of potential, very little developed. A local just found a 350 meter limestone cliff. Looks like I have some multi-pitch lines to discover.
For now, I am trying to deal with the government on licensing issues, but almost done. To many dinners and bad coffee.
I know we have someone on this site who has excellent big wall coffee, just can't remember who. Hoping I can buy some and have it sent to my forward service in Michigan.
Plan would be to buy a few bags a month.
More later on what the area has to offer, but to wet everyone appetite, here is one of the places that climbers are welcome.
Eman
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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May 27, 2015 - 06:46pm PT
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Mark Hudon is your man.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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May 27, 2015 - 07:01pm PT
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Wow, those pics are fantastic!
Need any help over there : )
What's big wall coffee? You do know that most of the coffee we have here comes from elsewhere. It might be cheaper if you go to the source? I heard India has been ramping up on the bean. I'm really surprised china isn't in the biz of the buzz. Plant some beans around your school.lol
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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May 27, 2015 - 07:40pm PT
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I've bought a some hood river coffee.. very good stuff..Good service.. prices are normal for good coffee. Plus hey It's Mark Hudons company... Great coffee, great climber, great guy, no brainer.
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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May 27, 2015 - 08:03pm PT
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I haven't had Mark's coffee-yet.
Plan to this summer.
I've been super happy with these folks coffee over the last few years especially their french roast.
http://www.cafemam.com/
I haven't had it sent to me though. I just bring 10+ lbs and supplement with Peet's from visitors when they come.
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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May 27, 2015 - 08:42pm PT
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Yunan has good coffee. There are lots of places to get it but I buy mine from a restaurant here in Kunming called Salvadors. You can google or bing the cafe. It was started by two Colorado climbers ten years ago. Good food, good coffee and a good company. They do a lot to help low income youth from remote mountain villages. I imagine you can use taobao to get quick delivery in china.
What kind of school are you starting? Need help?
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Guangzhou
Trad climber
Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
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Topic Author's Reply - May 27, 2015 - 11:28pm PT
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Mark, that is who I was looking for.
I know we have great coffee in Asia, just doesn't make its way here to China. After seven years in Indonesia, I did get pretty spoiled. My wife is visiting family in INdo now, so coffee is coming back with her.
Figured if I was mail ordering and the coffee is good, might as well support a climber.
As for help developing new routes, once I know the lay of the land a little better, anyone is welcomed.
Eman
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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May 27, 2015 - 11:38pm PT
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might as well support a climber.
That's really cool! Good on Ya : )
China stole our jobs, and now their stealing our good people too :^d (<that's me sticking my tongue out)
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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May 28, 2015 - 02:36am PT
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I have ten pounds or more of ten year old Starbucks beans?. . . .
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Guangzhou
Trad climber
Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
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Topic Author's Reply - May 29, 2015 - 05:05am PT
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That's really cool! Good on Ya : )
China stole our jobs, and now their stealing our good people too :^d (<that's me sticking my tongue out)
Not sure I am one of the good ones you're referring to, but the jobs in China are the reason upper managements from foreign companies needs the schools I open. In this case, Ford and GM were the ones asking for us to open.
As for 10 year old Starbucks, well, I doubt it was good fresh.
Eman
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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May 29, 2015 - 06:32am PT
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True That!
we do in-fact drink a mail order coffee in flush times,
twice a year or so we splurge and get four to six bags of beans.
From a small company that is second to HoodRiver,http://www.hoodrivercoffeeco.com/
While not a climber, and certainly Not Mark Hudon!
George Howell,has some history with the straying and re-finding of a good
(not burnt)Pot of coffee.
http://www.georgehowellcoffee.com
The two companies are very similar in choices, in the budget bean options,
both in $$ and locations of the plantations where the beans were grown.
i would like to compare the products and will this month maybe next, we shall see.
I will belay for coffee, second ascents of ground up classicsNo It Is Not In China, try Connecticut.
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Alpamayo
Trad climber
Davis, CA
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May 29, 2015 - 06:45am PT
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If you want really good coffee, buy a small roaster and roast your own. It's easy to mail order green beans. PLus you can bulk order the unroasted beans and not have to order roasted coffee frequently. Roasting is pretty simple and will be the best coffee you will ever taste.
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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May 29, 2015 - 07:46am PT
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"If you want really good coffee, buy a small roaster and roast your own"
Probable your best way to go due to shipping.
http://www.sweetmarias.com/store/coffee-list.html
"Sheet, I just make do with Maxwell House instant.
But I've never been a coffee snob. It just wakes me up in the am."
Coffee snob? So if I know how to rappel I'm a rappelling snob?
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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May 29, 2015 - 07:56am PT
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The Italians might say that you diss good coffee because you have never really had good fresh coffee. Lots of folks complain about the difficulties of rappelling but it is actually very easy.
Coffee might be similar in that if you don't ever get fresh coffee you might think all coffee is swill. You ever heard of a "god shot"? The Italians can tell you about coffee. The Americans not so much!
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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May 29, 2015 - 08:14am PT
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"The point behind my comment was merely that importing coffee all the way into China was most likely not worth the money or effort."
Exactly why he might be better off buying green beans and roasting them himself.
"You're making assumptions about my coffee experiences."
Recommending Maxwell House tells me your coffee experience may not have been enjoyable.
You go further and say you don't really care about coffee.
"I've got much better things to do than to go in quest of some "god shot" regarding something I don't care much for in the first place."
The dude asked about coffee. I tried to answer his question. WHY WHY WHY are you posting for?
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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May 29, 2015 - 08:25am PT
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"In my opinion, it's always best to adapt to the local culture, instead of trying to recreate a missing culture. It's wasteful of resources at the very least."
^^
Randisi's ultimate take on the coffee question. Changed the cussin in my post for your sake.
To the OP read the replies and make your own conclusions. I would take Randisi's recommendations with a grain of something!
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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May 29, 2015 - 08:40am PT
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"Dude, you do realize I live in China myself, don't you?" LOL!
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Guangzhou
Trad climber
Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2015 - 05:52am PT
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While I agree, adapting to local culture is great, I've lived overseas for twenty years. Some creature comforts are fine.
As for cost effective, I have a reliable mail forwarder. Having the coffee forwarded is cheaper than buying local.
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