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Banquo

climber
Amerricka
Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 22, 2014 - 05:49pm PT
As a first run I made 4 heads, 3 are on wood handles and one is waiting for a fiberglass handle on back order. Do you think this looks better than the original?





Old style:

healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Sep 22, 2014 - 07:42pm PT
NICE...
mucci

Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
Sep 22, 2014 - 07:54pm PT
Nice Dan!

That looks choice!

How heavy?
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Sep 22, 2014 - 08:02pm PT
Sweet looking hammers-the finer longer taper pick seems like it could be cool...center handle in your 4th picture looks solid.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Sep 22, 2014 - 08:15pm PT
I don't know dude. Yeah, sure, I have no doubt it's totally superior for pounding on sh#t, but you're really gonna have to work on the bottle opener if you want me to buy one. It just ain't gonna work the way you've got it set up now...
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Sep 22, 2014 - 08:17pm PT
David, I knew you were a drinker with a climbing problem!!! :-)
Banquo

climber
Amerricka
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 22, 2014 - 09:12pm PT
Could you make me a BAN HAMMER?

DMT, come by the garage and you can make any sort of hammer you want. There is a fridge in the garage and it needs lots of beer so bring some.


Ghost, WTF was I thinking? I going to spend the rest of the week designing the perfect hammer/bottle opener. Best idea that's come across my radar in ages. Just you wait, I'm not kidding.
Banquo

climber
Amerricka
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2014 - 07:50am PT
Mucci-

The heads weigh around 16.8 ounces. The longer handled ones are 13.5" and about 24 ounces.
kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Sep 23, 2014 - 08:12am PT
Damn Dingus this troll has a hard on for ya...Wonder if she works for Kumar?

Hey prdystrangelady - why do you and DMT get a rooom - geeeeze.

kev
Banquo

climber
Amerricka
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2014 - 08:45am PT
a guy, who's been climbing a couple years and is already where you maxed out at

Please tell us how big your penis is.
Banquo

climber
Amerricka
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2014 - 09:19am PT
prrrdylady-

Yes, it is hard to follow you who has referred to yourself and a guy and a textured Ken doll. Nope, I can't picture it. Perhaps you should post a photo for us.

BTW, the machete is nice. I am curious what he used for steel and if he heat treated it. The finger hook on the end of the handle is a nice feature that I haven't seen on a machete before.
Banquo

climber
Amerricka
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 27, 2014 - 03:15pm PT
It seems that prrrdylady and its posts are gone - good things happen.


Two days ago. Bob left his headlamp at the base again resulting in 3 single headlamp rappels down the unknown, after dark, on a moonless night.
Banquo

climber
Amerricka
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2014 - 06:16pm PT
Finally attached DAMMERR heads number 9 and 13 to handles. I think these are the nicest two hammers I've made so far. I think these two are called for but if anybody wants a hammer, let me know and perhaps we can work out a deal.

Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Nov 26, 2014 - 08:44pm PT
I think its gorgeous but the handle is too round. It will rotate in the/my grip; it should be very oval for better point control. In order to maintain or force the radial position of the head. Looks Japanese even, like many of their hammers in woodworking. I would need it oval.
Banquo

climber
Amerricka
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2014 - 10:02pm PT
Peter-

I am pleased that you like the look of my hammer. however, I am not sure - perhaps even fear that you have leapt to an unfounded conclusion. The handle is not round - except for where it fits into the head.

Not a big deal.

Perhaps you would like to try one of my hammers out? I'd be happy to loan one or put you in touch with someone who is using one. Then, if you did or didn't like it, your opinion, positive or negative, might have a bit more behind it.

Criticism will be happily accepted and even encouraged because I am only interested in making nice hammers. I swear I'm not making money doing this. Most of my hammers have been given to repay favors or for traded for things that interest me.

The perfectly round bit that fits into the head has advantages and disadvantages.

On the negative side I have to be careful when I install the head to make sure it is aligned with the oval section of the handle so that, as you point out, the user can keep the head aligned with the work. This seems to be harder than one might think and I have got it wrong sometimes.

On the plus side, I can get a fit of the handle into the head that is as perfect as is possible for wood to steel. I drill a hole in the head and measure the diameter with calipers. Then I put the handle in a metal lathe and using the calibrated cross slide, I turn it to fit the head within a few thousandths of an inch. Then I saw a kerf and install a wedge. Rather than hammer the wedge in and bugger things up, I press it in with a hydraulic press.

I think they are pretty good hammers but would be happy to improve them.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Nov 26, 2014 - 10:22pm PT
bumpity fun hammer talk


Dan, have you thought about making a trenching Chouinard-like hammertool?


More than one poster has described using the long pick end old style Chouinard hammers as dirt digging implements/gravel removal tools.

Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Nov 26, 2014 - 10:36pm PT
Banquo, thanks and you are doing remarkable and astounding work!! Approaching jewelry, I dare say! No question about it and thank you very much while we are at it! You are doing angels' work, I have to say.

Your photographs of the whole hammer sure look like the handle is pretty much round as hell where the grip is. Nothing I would hate more than a heavy power hammer with a really "round" grip, which you averred is not the case. The less stress on the elbow and wrist the better with hammers. Rotational effects upon impact and insecurity in pointing the head would a PIA.

I am glad this is an aberration of photography. When I hammer, I want complete perfect mastery over the point of the head and I don't want the sucker rotating within my grip as it impacts and wants to turn. All this is obvious to you, I am sure. Perhaps show us a photograph of an end view of the handle below the grip. Anything to a-lay fears that your wondrous hammers might be fighting their grip.

best regards Banquo, ph.
Banquo

climber
Amerricka
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 27, 2014 - 08:19am PT
Munge -

I have thought about a cleaning pick. Most of us using hammrs are on first ascent so there is always a lot of cleaning. A pick on a hammer is a nuisance to carry around and the size of the hammer limits it's deployment as a cleaning tool. I think a small cleaning tool would generally work better. Of course there isn't much purpose for the pick I have. I have made it narrow so the biner hole works well (better than the BD hole). I have set nuts with it.

For a cleaning tool I generally use and old screwdriver that has been cut off and bent to 90 degrees. Cragnshag uses this and hangs it on a cool fly fisherman's magnetic net lanyard. The magnet is really cool because all you have to do is get the two parts close and they align and attach.

http://www.orvis.com/p/original-magnetic-net-holder/318t

Also see the old Forrest "Nut Hammer"

http://www.supertopo.com/inc/photo_zoom.php?dpid=MjM6Pzo7JSAq

Peter-

What I would like to do is figure out a method and jig for making my own handles. So far I have been buying off the shelf handles and turning them to fit the head. The machine they use to make handles is terrifying:

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I am thinking about a router replicator of some sort but haven't got there yet. So, perhaps the profile of the handles I am using aren't exactly what you want but someday I hope to be able to make anything you want.

Any wood workers out there have a method for making handles?
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Nov 27, 2014 - 05:11pm PT
Dan, great idea on the lanyard. That just went on the xmas list!

Banquo

climber
Amerricka
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2015 - 12:07pm PT
Changed the DAMMERR hammer head a little bit. I made more of a pick by curving the underside. This was at the request of somebody who says they like the pick for cleaning and prying rocks off.


I have 6 on hand if anybody needs a hammer.


Yes, you can open beers.

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